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Old 09-15-2010, 07:03 AM
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Doesn't even need to be like that - I think that as she is with Eywa and her avatar is still there, she could return in that body
Mmm... Well as possible as it is for Grace to still be technically "alive" and able to talk to people, I don't think she'll do it through her avatar. Because, there's only so much time before a body dies from lack of nutrition, muscular atrophy, etc. The avatar can only stay alive for so long after disuse, because I imagine the body is only capable of performing involuntary actions like breathing, digestion, heartbeat, etc. And who knows how long the time gap will be between Avatar 1 and 2.

So, yes; Grace will probably make a comeback, but not in her avatar. Her avatar would most-likely be dead by then.
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Old 09-15-2010, 05:06 PM
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Mmm... Well as possible as it is for Grace to still be technically "alive" and able to talk to people, I don't think she'll do it through her avatar. Because, there's only so much time before a body dies from lack of nutrition, muscular atrophy, etc. The avatar can only stay alive for so long after disuse, because I imagine the body is only capable of performing involuntary actions like breathing, digestion, heartbeat, etc. And who knows how long the time gap will be between Avatar 1 and 2.

So, yes; Grace will probably make a comeback, but not in her avatar. Her avatar would most-likely be dead by then.
The gap between the sequel is supposedly a few years, or at least a year. Grace's avatar will be long disfunctional by then unless Max brings it to Hell's Gate to keep it "running" (or alive or whatever you want to call it) until then.
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Old 09-16-2010, 12:48 AM
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Mmm... Well as possible as it is for Grace to still be technically "alive" and able to talk to people, I don't think she'll do it through her avatar. Because, there's only so much time before a body dies from lack of nutrition, muscular atrophy, etc. The avatar can only stay alive for so long after disuse, because I imagine the body is only capable of performing involuntary actions like breathing, digestion, heartbeat, etc. And who knows how long the time gap will be between Avatar 1 and 2.

So, yes; Grace will probably make a comeback, but not in her avatar. Her avatar would most-likely be dead by then.
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The gap between the sequel is supposedly a few years, or at least a year. Grace's avatar will be long disfunctional by then unless Max brings it to Hell's Gate to keep it "running" (or alive or whatever you want to call it) until then.
This could happen, I guess, but really, an avatar would be able to survive a long time while not linked, I would guess, since breathing, circulation etc are all minimal - it would need a very small amount of energy to keep going, and even though some muscle would be lost , that can be built up again afterwards.
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Old 09-16-2010, 01:09 AM
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I imagine Grace coming back as a sort of disembodied voice representing Eywa, not an actual Na'vi.
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Old 09-16-2010, 04:09 AM
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The gap between the sequel is supposedly a few years, or at least a year. Grace's avatar will be long disfunctional by then unless Max brings it to Hell's Gate to keep it "running" (or alive or whatever you want to call it) until then.
You know, that would actually work!

...Now I'm hoping Cameron has the same idea.
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Old 09-16-2010, 05:14 AM
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I imagine Grace coming back as a sort of disembodied voice representing Eywa, not an actual Na'vi.
That is what I imagine happening or else as a direct connection to Jake.
I still want to know what happened when he passed through the Eye of Eywa.. he may have seen Grace.

aaargh! I want the book naow!
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Old 02-25-2011, 08:08 AM
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" "The next big thing" brings things to my mind... What could possibly be bigger than attempting to kill Eywa?

...Killing the natives off, maybe. RDA realizes the eminent threat they pose, and earth has gotten so desensitized, that killing a bunch of humanoids (with proper propaganda sold to the public) would solve everything. The battle for their lives begins... That's a possible. How would the oceans tie in? Well, maybe as a side-step to the primary plot, the drilling would take place mostly in the oceans (a wink and a nod to off-shore drilling)."


Bigger than killing Eywa... Perhaps they'll just surround and bomb the entire moon. They'd still be able to get the Unobtainium since they'd only be bombing the surface.
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Old 02-25-2011, 12:24 PM
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They are limited by their contract in what weapons they can use (and remember, they are still a corporation, WMDs are beyond them), their only sips are the ISVs, which are approximately one per 1.2 years and not designed in any shape, form or capacity for any kind of orbital attack. This is hard (realistic) scifi.

JC has said that although the oceans will be in Avatar 2, they won't be the entire film (which is a huge relief, I think, as I'm not amazingly fond of the idea - sure, it will be nice for a bit, but I want more of the Na'vi...)
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Here are my thoughts...

I hope that the sequel will deal less with a lot of conflict and more with relationship development/tribal life. I think that the first sequel could be like a "calm before the storm" to the second sequels "epic battle".

What I think would make for interesting plot ideas:
1. Show some scenes on Earth, maybe a ruling council or something.
2. Show flashbacks from before the events in the first movie that relate to the characters and advance the plot into the first movie and makes connections to the sequel. (It would be interesting to meet Neytiri and Tsu'Tey before Jake came along. This is also how Grace could make an appearance, maybe her school?)
3. Not anything that is "too far out" like an underwater tribe or going to another moon...

It would also be cool to see Neytiri visit Jake's world, just for the unique aspects of it.
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Old 02-25-2011, 07:52 PM
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"I find it very hard to believe the RDA is just going to give up Pandora so easily. They'll probably cease mercenary work and pull a few strings to actually involve real marines and army men who aren't paid soley for the company's benefit, but rather taught they're doing serious service for their country, without any RDA involvement in the conflict. Perhaps the government would get an actual general in there to secure things according to his own standards, with no corporation to hold him back.

That'd be a force ten times what Quaritch was; far more powerful and more flexible to command anyone under him."

That's DEFINATELY most likely thing to happen, but now it's got me thinking:...Since these people of the military will be there only for the reason of wanting to exterminate the Na'vi....why don't they just, I said this about the RDA once, bomb the whole moon? But how would the Na'vi fight back? I don't believe James Cameron would make it end that way.
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Old 02-25-2011, 08:12 PM
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Perhaps it's not aliens that will be the conflict in Avatar 2 and/or 3. Maybe because of all the damage the humans did to Pandora(all of the pollutions from chemicals, etc.) and the Na'vi being in close contact with the humans so MUCH, a super virus will come up, and because it's a virus caused by a very alien thing, the Na'vi have no cure for it.

I don't know. It's just another speculation.
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Old 02-26-2011, 01:44 AM
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I doubt that, as the Na'vi don't live in optimal conditions for disease like humans do and it is mentioned that there is far less disease as their relationship with Pandora is far more symbiotic than humans on Earth.
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Old 02-27-2011, 12:20 AM
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Hmm. True. Thank you.
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