Ways To Cope With The Depression Of The Dream Of Pandora Being Intangible.

[auroraglacialis]

Originally Posted by Seamus

also, eywa_devotee (on AF) started a thread on it, and his/her experience of taking ayahuasca (the vine of souls) AT an Avatar screening.

Do you have a link? I could not find anything on AF. Maybe search is broken there (or was it removed?)

[Xmal'hautl]

post deleted

[EywaBlessMe]

ayahuasca? ick. I understand it is a strong purgative (both ends)

[Seamus]

hence its lack of favor among recreational drug users

[auroraglacialis]

yeah - like many other such plants, it is not really recreational.
Thanks for the link. That experience is - well - amazing does not cut it. I mean, just reading this made me feel different. It sucked me in - in a way. And this at a time when I felt my emotional connection to all of this diminish in the daily stress. It is quite daring to use such a plant in a movie theatre but obviously this one was an incredible experience. The part on other people feeling something too is weird. The part on feeling to die and rebirth - I have read that this is indeed happening to many people who do this kind of experience.
So Seamus - I see that many of the views of the world described in that long post fit to what we have talked in our forum and in PM. Like the manifesting reality part and the part on fear - I can see what connects you to this experience described there.

[Seamus]

My friend,

I have just had a visit with an old friend from many years ago. We are both on the same path, on the same page, even, though we have come through very different trials and tests.

He referred me to a woman by the name of Keisha Crowther. She is AMAZING. If you are at all interested in Tribalistic Spiritualism, Please do check out

YouTube - Return of the Ancestors - Pt 2 - Shaman, Kiesha Crowther 4/5

Normally, I'm not so into "indian" stuff, even though i am part indian (because they can sometimes get too into their own "traditions for tradition's sake") But she seems like the real deal.

S

[auroraglacialis]

I watched the video (was hard to find the part 1, though, as it is a several part video and you linked to some middle part). I liked the beginning. Especially the part on healing male and female consciousness. Very nice ritual that was described there. So despite my scepticism towards "metaphysical" explanations, I really liked it and I even had tears in my eyes a couple of times. What really threw me off however was the part towards the end though. She goes on to talk about indian ancient prophecies of aliens in flying disks coming to earth, crop circles and stars/planets appearing in the sky. I think, this is a bit too "fringe" for me. Also the prediction that this will happen in 2010 is lets say rather concrete. Some people have tried pinpointing such events to certain years or dates before her and up to now have failed ("year 2000" among them).
But watching this, I got a good idea in what direction (or from what direction) your writings on manifesting reality go.

[caveman]

If anyone needs help, would like someone to talk to, or just any advice, I'm here willing to help if you're willing to listen to me. I consider myself a success story in terms of PAD, and I offer my best advice to anyone who wants it. Feel free to PM me, or post here. I'm also on AF.

[Sempu]

Originally Posted by caveman

If anyone needs help, would like someone to talk to, or just any advice, I'm here willing to help if you're willing to listen to me. I consider myself a success story in terms of PAD, and I offer my best advice to anyone who wants it. Feel free to PM me, or post here. I'm also on AF.

That goes for me too. And Caveman is not exaggerating in his claim. He really exemplifies the curiosity and dedication of a true seeker.

[Human No More]

I consider myself successful for the opposite reason... I am happy again, but not at the expense of my feelings or understanding of how it's what some people want.

[Sempu]

I want to repost something here I put on the equivalent thread on Avatar-Forums:

Part of the picture that occurs to me is a contrast with virtually every other popular movie today, which provides (over-)stimulation that creates a state of stress inside the viewer. I don't like action-oriented video games for the same reason: what they do to my physiology.

But what Avatar -- action sequences aside -- does is to take you into the quiet space inside where your soul grows. It gets your brain to shut up for a moment so you can experience the universal flow of energy that is the hallmark of life. For people that are used to a world where everything competes to overwhelm their attention and distract them from the tender beauty of simply being, the perfection of this glimpse of eternity fills their heart so much it feels as though it is breaking.

Not just the media but virtually the entire culture of the USA in particular now is fixated on creating or sustaining conflict and stress as a way of getting attention, and that separates us from our true selves. The frenzied angry posts that characterize what passes for discussion on 99% of the internet are the vain attempts of a population disconnected from its own humanity to find what it lost an increasingly long time ago. Depression from seeing Avatar may be the regret at having bought into that deception for so long.

[Fkeu'itan]

Very well said Sempu.

I think this is why people tend to prefer the 'second act' of the film - where Jake is learning their ways, learning Pandora and most importantly, learning to see. It's the part of the film which is slowest, but also most peaceful - most calm and so most fulfilling to soul, body and mind.

I think we're all sick of living in a world where everything's a race, a competition. A competition where there are no trophies handed out at the end.

[Loverofnature]

Very, very well said, both of you

i agree, or i do now, after reading

i wish the things didn't go like you just described Fkeu... sadly they do, nothing i can do about it, though i wish i could


again, well said guys

[ISV Venture Star]

Originally Posted by Fkeu'itan

Very well said Sempu.

I think this is why people tend to prefer the 'second act' of the film - where Jake is learning their ways, learning Pandora and most importantly, learning to see. It's the part of the film which is slowest, but also most peaceful - most calm and so most fulfilling to soul, body and mind.

Yes, this is what stuck with me, what pulled me back to the cinema so many times... everything else is great, but this part is so beguiling and beautiful. I want it to be real, to be real for me.

[Sempu]

Originally Posted by Fkeu'itan

V
I think we're all sick of living in a world where everything's a race, a competition. A competition where there are no trophies handed out at the end.

Agreed. The winner of the rat race is still a rat.