Ways To Cope With The Depression Of The Dream Of Pandora Being Intangible.

[Human No More]

Originally Posted by auroraglacialis

Well, I understand you, HNM in that of course hanggliding is not an Ikran and that a lush forest still is not bioluminescent and that tsaheylu is just not happening here on Earth as well as there are no floating mountains and a sky with a giant red planet. I long for these too, I have to admit. And I think they will and always have been in my dreams.
But I did not intend to ask for your longings or dreams, I meant to ask towards what these longings inspire you? You said they are good for you, you cherish these longings despite them beeing unreachable (ok, some actually are - like finding a soulmate and becoming free of society and live more naturally)? So if they are good for you, what is their effect on you, towards what do these things inspire you in your life - what vision for your life here and now do you get from them? Pandora is intangible and dwelling on a longing for it that cannot be fulfilled only makes sense, if it inspires you towards something in your life now and here, otherwise it is just escaping into dreams and waiting for some miracle, I would think.

Those ARE what inspire me... there isn't anything on Earth that matches them. I don't have any particular vision for here because it isn't my home.
Maybe I am waiting for something, even though I don't expect things to ever happen... Is that really such a bad thing though?
I'm making the best of what I'm stuck with, but it's never going to be perfect.

Originally Posted by Fkeu'itan

At one point, I had such a strong feeling that Pandora could be on Earth, that we were capable of a real, fulfilling life, but now i'm not so sure.

All I can see is the extent to which greed has enraptured the world and it's people. And now I doubt that there is anyone left.

Pandora is a chance to escape the machine, the thing that all keeps us in a stranglehold - and to get back to the roots of who we are, what we should be. A compassionate, loving race that cares what they do. That, for me, is the draw of Pandora. The Ikran, the floating mountains, the bioluminescence... That's all a bonus. Although there is no doubt she is a beautiful moon, she certainly isn't the only wonderful blue-green orb in the universe. What I truly love about it is the people. What they think, what they do, how they live, how they feel. How much they actually care about their planet. Something that we lost many decades ago, centuries, millenia even.

That, for me, is why I have never wanted to be there more than I do at this moment.

For me... all the things on Pandora we don't have are equally important to the Na'vi, to living free... I want all of them, none of them are a bonus for me

Originally Posted by auroraglacialis

It is so - it could be. How the chances are that it will be real is another matter


Indeed!
The two split draw is the actualy physical (virtual) reality, the "bonuses" and they have indeed a strong appeal themselves - and the emotional (for lack of a better word) component of how the people there are, how the life is for the NA'Vi. The physical parts are great, but they are in a way fantasy and can be put into that realm. It is not Earth and longing for these is a bit troublesome as there is really no assurance that these things are possible at all. The emotional part OTOH is very real, it is so strong because we feel that it is not beyond possibility. We feel that this could actually be, that this is how it should be that this is probably how it has been a long long time ago. That it is more tangible than floating mountains. It is just within or just beyond our grasp and that makes its impact even stronger on us. At least that is true for me and most likely for many of us here.

It is the feeling that something like this existed here on this planet before, that it is something that was lost - unlike floating mountains that never have been on Earth. That feeling of loss and looking around at the "landscape of loss" in this time is what causes a lot of the sadness. It is the loss in all nature, but specifically in the loss in the spirits of one species - our own - that creates a deep longing to get out of here, to change it all and it is the sheer immensity of such a task that lets us feel dispair. :,(

Sorry, I feel a bit gloomy today

what makes thing much worse for me is that the emotional part is THEORETICALLY possible...

But it isn't going to happen.

I'm still lonely, I still haven't found anyone, the only people I know who See and who I really care about other than my IRL family are here.

I'm still lonely

I don't see how it will change.