Ways To Cope With The Depression Of The Dream Of Pandora Being Intangible.

[Stanley_9875]

Originally Posted by Boomachucka

Thanks for the threads, I should link some of the ones I started over at A-F when trying to explain things to people.

I also discovered that the IMAX center an hour from my house will be playing Avatar 3D on Tuesday, so I plan to go for at least one more time before it's gone

Yea for sure I'd love to read them... and definitely go see them

[Fighter-of-Wars]

At first I didn't know what to do with the feeling I had after watching it the first time. Then I watched it the second time and everything came together of what I had been feeling all along, I looked at myself and was disgusted. I was 200 pounds, couldn't run 1/4 without feeling like I was going to pass out and had hardly noticed nature or been a part of it for a long time.

I've already lost 10 pounds, I run atleast 3-4 miles a week. Not much but its a lot more than what I started at, I play with the dog and give her a lot more attention. I can sit on the porch of an evening and just stare into the sky, stars and the sunset and feel so good its almost unexplainable.

[Stanley_9875]

Originally Posted by Fighter-of-Wars

At first I didn't know what to do with the feeling I had after watching it the first time. Then I watched it the second time and everything came together of what I had been feeling all along, I looked at myself and was disgusted. I was 200 pounds, couldn't run 1/4 without feeling like I was going to pass out and had hardly noticed nature or been a part of it for a long time.

I've already lost 10 pounds, I run atleast 3-4 miles a week. Not much but its a lot more than what I started at, I play with the dog and give her a lot more attention. I can sit on the porch of an evening and just stare into the sky, stars and the sunset and feel so good its almost unexplainable.

Thats awesome! Hey progress is progress. Good for you ma tsmukan!

[Fighter-of-Wars]

Originally Posted by Stanley_9875

Thats awesome! Hey progress is progress. Good for you ma tsmukan!

Thanks. I hope someday that I can just go and run, run, run for hours without feeling exhausted. Every time I feel like it's to far away, I just go and run and I feel 100% better, and I think to myself, it just takes time and determination. And watching Avatar again really gives me a boost.

[caveman]

Good for you man. Yea running makes me feel better too. I really think humans were born to run. Anyways I've got some posts from AF I have to copy here when I get the time. I always look to them when I'm feeling scared.

[Boomachucka]

Originally Posted by Fighter-of-Wars

At first I didn't know what to do with the feeling I had after watching it the first time. Then I watched it the second time and everything came together of what I had been feeling all along, I looked at myself and was disgusted. I was 200 pounds, couldn't run 1/4 without feeling like I was going to pass out and had hardly noticed nature or been a part of it for a long time.

I've already lost 10 pounds, I run atleast 3-4 miles a week. Not much but its a lot more than what I started at, I play with the dog and give her a lot more attention. I can sit on the porch of an evening and just stare into the sky, stars and the sunset and feel so good its almost unexplainable.

That's great! And "not much"... 10 pounds is a lot if you're losing it the healthy way!

I've never been into running myself, I always find it hard to get into... I prefer weight training. But regardless, make some adjustments to your diet where needed and you'll continue to see improvement. Also, get into the habit of drinking lots of water!

Good on you man, I'm glad to hear you're doing so well!

[Sight Unseen]

Originally Posted by Fighter-of-Wars

At first I didn't know what to do with the feeling I had after watching it the first time. Then I watched it the second time and everything came together of what I had been feeling all along, I looked at myself and was disgusted. I was 200 pounds, couldn't run 1/4 without feeling like I was going to pass out and had hardly noticed nature or been a part of it for a long time.

I've already lost 10 pounds, I run atleast 3-4 miles a week. Not much but its a lot more than what I started at, I play with the dog and give her a lot more attention. I can sit on the porch of an evening and just stare into the sky, stars and the sunset and feel so good its almost unexplainable.

That's awesome, 10 pounds. Great progress.

[auroraglacialis]

Me too - 10-15 pounds lost since first seeing Avatar. I saw it once and was stunned. The people I went with found it ok and good, but I wanted to see it again, so I said, I want to see it in the OV and did again and then I was really not able to go away from it anymore. Seen it again and again and will do so when the re-Release will be happening in summer.

Funny thing is - I had some PAD for sure, thinking about Pandora and all that, but very quickly my attention was turned to our own planet instead and so I got sad about this one. And then I figured out the reason for my non-avatar depression for years - it is this world and what is happening to it. So now, I do not have much true depression, but I feel often sadness - for our planet and I also feel loss for not beeing able to make it to Pandora ever. But the key point is, I feel sad and lost and excited again - this is not what true depression is like, when you just dont feel.

So my ways to deal with "the situation" - let's see.
* First, I listen to the soundtrack all the time in my car. The vocal song makes me cry on demand, that is a bit strange ("Walking in a dream...")
* I go swimming every week for an hour and eat less processed food. I completely banned soft drinks (that is how I lost my 15# up to now). Swimming is great, I can, if I want to, imagine swimming in a lake on Pandora and see hometree in the distance.
* I read up a lot on environmentalism, ecology and tribes.
* I keep on working as an environmental scientist
* I talk to people, on AF and in RL on the matters concerning our planet. I learned about the Gaia Theory and suddenly it came up at work in a meeting - I was so amazed.
* I got myself a nice mexican hammock and sleep in it most nights (that's an odd one, I know)
* I keep on doing my traditional archery and bowmaking, but now I practice once every two weeks and am not so lazy anymore as before.
* I will take part in a wilderness weekend next week and hopefully do some wilderness experience (sort of like survival training, but with more focus on emotional matters than mere technical things) soon.
* I learn about permaculture and ways to use it to be able to build self-sustaining gardening once.
* I will as soon as the weather is warmer go hiking in the mountains again and I will take off my shoes more often and feel the moss in the forest and the rocks of the mountain rivers.
* And finally, I am part of "The Revolutionists"

Gee - that is a longer list than I thought

Oh and about that people calling 911 when seeing the stars - this is immensely stupid, but I know several of these stories. I already told them in AF. I do medieval reenactments and I have met people who do not know real fire (they think it is faked), they think my dogs and the baby of a friend are robots, we cannot possibly eat the food we cook over an open fire and of course can not be serious about sleeping in these medieval tents. The parents tell their kids they can play with the horsedung because it is fake anyways and the kids are disgusted at the thought that milk actually comes from cows. It is incredible.

[omaticaya]

Originally Posted by auroraglacialis

So my ways to deal with "the situation" - let's see.
* First, I listen to the soundtrack all the time in my car. The vocal song makes me cry on demand, that is a bit strange ("Walking in a dream...")
* I go swimming every week for an hour and eat less processed food. I completely banned soft drinks (that is how I lost my 15# up to now). Swimming is great, I can, if I want to, imagine swimming in a lake on Pandora and see hometree in the distance.
* I read up a lot on environmentalism, ecology and tribes.
* I keep on working as an environmental scientist
* I talk to people, on AF and in RL on the matters concerning our planet. I learned about the Gaia Theory and suddenly it came up at work in a meeting - I was so amazed.
* I got myself a nice mexican hammock and sleep in it most nights (that's an odd one, I know)
* I keep on doing my traditional archery and bowmaking, but now I practice once every two weeks and am not so lazy anymore as before.
* I will take part in a wilderness weekend next week and hopefully do some wilderness experience (sort of like survival training, but with more focus on emotional matters than mere technical things) soon.
* I learn about permaculture and ways to use it to be able to build self-sustaining gardening once.
* I will as soon as the weather is warmer go hiking in the mountains again and I will take off my shoes more often and feel the moss in the forest and the rocks of the mountain rivers.
* And finally, I am part of "The Revolutionists"

Hey, Aurora, that's a nice list.

Swimming is awesome, I wish I could do it, but the closest inddor swimming pool is not quite near. But soon, the outdoor season begins

I go hiking quite often for several days. It's so nice being away from all the comfort of your normal life, sleeping outside, cooking over the fire, sitting around the campfire and singing together, waking up with the sunlight and washing yourself in a cold stream.

Gardening is a very nice thing, too. Watching the mystery of life as it turns tiny seeds into a lettuce, a tomatoe plant or whatever.

Survival weekend? Please tell more about it.

Really, getting closer to nature is the best cure for PAD or any other depression.

[auroraglacialis]

Originally Posted by omaticaya

I go hiking quite often for several days. It's so nice being away from all the comfort of your normal life, sleeping outside, cooking over the fire, sitting around the campfire and singing together, waking up with the sunlight and washing yourself in a cold stream.

Gardening is a very nice thing, too.r.

Survival weekend? Please tell more about it.

Hiking is great, but I ususally go only for single days. It is a bit odd here though, as you can almost never be in solitude (overpopulated) and it is actually illegal to camp outside a campsite (and there are none in remote areas). I liked this about Colorado. I could go hiking and camping there in much more "natural" environments and they had really nice campsites.
I'll see what will be possible in the wilderness courses here

There is a weekend coming up here locally where the local wilderness organization shows itself and they also have some workshops on making fire, stone knives, baskets and such things. Also on social issues. It's all indoors though, but they also offer practical courses outside and I want to do that this year, I have to see if I can find the time and money though. The full year course (5 days for each of the four seasons) is about 1500€

[omaticaya]

Originally Posted by auroraglacialis

Hiking is great, but I ususally go only for single days. It is a bit odd here though, as you can almost never be in solitude (overpopulated) and it is actually illegal to camp outside a campsite (and there are none in remote areas). I liked this about Colorado. I could go hiking and camping there in much more "natural" environments and they had really nice campsites.
I'll see what will be possible in the wilderness courses here

There is a weekend coming up here locally where the local wilderness organization shows itself and they also have some workshops on making fire, stone knives, baskets and such things. Also on social issues. It's all indoors though, but they also offer practical courses outside and I want to do that this year, I have to see if I can find the time and money though. The full year course (5 days for each of the four seasons) is about 1500€

Where are you now, where it is so overpopulated? Because Germany is quite overpopulated, too, I think, but there are still very nice areas where you can go. It's not completely remote from civilisation but far enough from your everyday life. However, when you camp in the wilderness you have to be very careful that nobody notice it.

That weekend sounds very nice. Survival techniques and a little bit of handcraft, that reminds me of the things which are explained about the life of the Na'vi in the Activist's Survival Guide. And social issues as well, wow, that's good. But the full year course is really, really expensive. Would be interesting to know somebody who has done this and hear from his/her experiences.

[auroraglacialis]

Ah - I am amazed. Sooo many people from Germany I bump into here and in AF. Why?

So yes - i am also in Germany and if I go hiking, I always meet several people even in the Alps. There are some nice areas, but I always feel like someone will come by every minute and if you camp in the wild, it may be trouble. A friend of mine is walking from my home town to Spain. She managed to camp out many nights but ususally you have to ask for permission or you may run into some person who just thinks he is obligated to tell you that you are not supposed to do this. I don't like to hide like this, but yes - I guess it is possible. And yes - obviously it is much better than "everyday life"

I am looking forward to that weekend, but I will have to find an alternative to the 1500€ course in southern Bavaria. It sounds good, especially the four seasons, but I have no 1500€ easily...maybe I should look toward other parts of Germany or Austria for alternatives

[Human No More]

I think that maybe, one day I'll try camping somewhere out in nature for a few days. I'm not sure on the situation about whether it's allowed or not, but I don't really care, I'll just find somewhere where nobody will find me.

I wish there was somewhere like that near me though...

[Fkeu'itan]

Originally Posted by Human No More

I think that maybe, one day I'll try camping somewhere out in nature for a few days. I'm not sure on the situation about whether it's allowed or not, but I don't really care, I'll just find somewhere where nobody will find me.

I wish there was somewhere like that near me though...

I think we should organize some kind of UK camping trip, like the Californians here have...

[omaticaya]

If I have time and could catch a cheap flight I would come over and join you. I wanted to return to Aberystwyth anyway for a visit. Problem is, that I'm very busy this summer.