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Old 06-02-2010, 03:50 PM
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I agree, he was just doing his job.

Plus also it seems that in 2154, people seem to be more heartless and numbed to society, where they don't see as much beauty, and because of that they don't know beauty when they see it, unlike Grace, Norm, and then Jake. Jake didn't See, until he Saw for himself

I'm sure if Selfrige was put into Jakes position, he would've Seen as well
Based on the replies on this thread, I'm going to have to agree with you.

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Selfridge is an idiot, but Quaritch still did it. When Hometree was destroyed, Selfridge had a real 'WTF have I done?!' look on his face. It's more obvious in the script when Quaritch actually confronts Selfridge and takes over control.
I hate them both.
But I still Hate both of them.
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Old 06-03-2010, 04:31 AM
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I didn't think him that evil of a guy. Just doing his job, mostly, and any average person would think,

"Trees that can talk and hold memories? What the hell is she talking about? She's probably just trying to keep me from doing my job; this is getting ridiculous."

I don't hate him much. When he says, "Pull the plug" he's again doing his job. As he saw it, the avatar program was used to befriend the natives so the workers could mine with one less obstacle; that was the only reason it was allowed to be done. With Hometree destroyed, it'd only be natural for Selfridge to order the disconnect since there'd be no point in letting Jake and Grace roam around with no other purpose.

Think about things in his perspective. Please.
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well I actually thought he was in the state where he sympathised with the Na'vi but:

a) he did not believe any of the "voodoo stuff", which is not his fault - nor would Jake if he didn't get the training from Neytiri to be able to "see"

b) I imagine him being under constant pressure as the boss of whole operation, RDA wants to see some results too...

Also if you pay attention to his reactions, I thought half of the irony in the reaction to Grace's speech was because he had to 'keep his face' (or how you call it, I don't know exact phrase) before the collective and Quaritch. Can you imagine consequences for him if he just said "alright let's mine elsewhere"? No one on Earth and most of the RDA employees on Pandora wouldn't believe Grace either. There is a deleted scene where he wants to stop Quaritch from loading the shuttle with the bomb pallets, but Quaritch scares him off and takes over (as mentioned by Max). Even the look on his face when boarding the shuttle says "I didn't want it to end like this"

^^^ These!

The guy was just doing his job, and we know by the script that Quaritch ended up taking over.

A big part about politics, especially in the corporate world, is not appearing indecisive. In fact, he did exactly what I would expect someone of his position to do when confronted about the trees- He said "There's no evidence, that doesn't make sense, and you're slowing me down from doing my job."

On the part about him casually saying 'Pull the plug', The impression I got from his face/eyes (Which, to be frank, looked pretty normal I suppose) is that he was feeling totally numb from all the destruction he just witnessed. I mean, everyone was standing in that room, mouths hanging open, watching the Na'vi get burned to the ground on the monitors. I think he just wanted the nightmare to be over.

Doesn't make the things he did right, just sayin'.

I thought he was well played and absolutely hilarious. I kind of wish we got to see more of him... And everyone, for that matter. If it were up to me Avatar would never end.

... and I would get to go to Pandora, too.
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