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Old 06-08-2010, 11:31 PM
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Default Derealization

Strange how all you thought was real can stop being so in a matter of seconds.

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I think I can distinguish reality by two criteria: the first, whether I receive information from the outside or not, this is, if I perceive it or not; and the second is, whether I am conscious of it or not.

Thus, as I said on the "What's real?" thread on the debate section, we've got three different kinds of realities depending on those.

The first one is what I can perceive, from the outside (this is, something I am not controlling at all, and I am receiving information about constanly) and I am conscious about. What most of us call "real world". What I perceive is what I see, my printer with its green LED shining, my room recently tidied up and my hands typing on the keyboard; what I can smell is the stink of the meals coming out from the kitchens of my block; what I can hear is the sound my PC's freezer does; and so on.

The second one is abstract reality, a reality I do not receive information about from the outside, but rather create it myself in my head; and a reality I am conscious about most of the times (but not dreaming for example).

The third one is scarier, because we do not have the means to know anything about it, neither we are conscious about it. It's unknown.

These three merge in the only reality. A reality that basically covers everything that exists.


Now, the first one is all a perception from my point of view; but I ask, where does this information come from? Is that desk really there, do I really see it, touch it?

What is the cause that makes me know there is a desk there?

Because I perceive it as a wooden object, with four legs and a plank. Is it actually a desk? How if I had a sixth sense, would I see a different aspect from it, an aspect hidden by that unknown reality?

Imagine we got an all-seeing viewer -a viewer that could see that presumed unique reality- between me and the desk. Would he see the same object I do?


What I mean with all this is, what we perceive, is it an illusion? What is actually beneath what our senses tell us that exist?

Are our -limited- senses and perceptions the only means to reach reality? The only source of information? Is that information the only one we can have from reality, and therefore, should we take as real only what we perceive?

Or is there anything else?
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This is surrealistic.
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