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06-30-2010, 08:40 AM
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06-30-2010, 05:04 PM
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Unless you lack all empathy and are sociopathic I know exactly who you would save. The Human, and I will tell you why you will save the human. We are a social species, it is hardwired into us to so empathy towards human or human looking objects. Why do we anthropomorphizing cartoon characters? Because we can sympathize more easily with a human looking rabbit then we can with a rabbit not to say it doesn't happen, but it is easier for us. While I am sure you are trying to prove some point by saying you would save whatever is easier, if a human were about to fall off a cliff and a bug were about to be smushed by a rock that would be easily stopped, you would ignore the bug completely and throw your hand out for the human and haul him up. Why? Because you are human, such a desire to help is almost instinctual in us, we really do enjoy sharing things and helping complete strangers if it doesn't cost us anything. The simple desire to share with others is one of the reasons you have so much peer to peer sharing on the internet, its not that hard to upload your favorite game and share it with others. Words are cheap. And while the above is most likely, I cannot claim it to be 100% true until it has been tested, likewise, you will never know unless you are actually put in that situation. It is simply human nature to help other humans.
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06-30-2010, 05:08 PM
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There's no reason. There's no reason to life apart from what we make.
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06-30-2010, 05:12 PM
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It is simply in our nature as a social creature to connect with others, even total strangers and sympathize and empathize with them. It is ingrained into ourselves and our culture, Christianity and other major religions promote such behavior as well.
Take the internet as a major example of this behavior, ask a stranger what they use the internet for and they will give you some excuse that it is for information and research purposes, this is a lie 99% of the time. The vast majority of internet use is for socializing and working on websites such as facebook and youtube. We like connecting with like-minded individuals and talking with others who are interested in what we are interested. If placed in such a situation my money is you thoughtlessly and selflessly throwing your arm out to save the human, even if it risks pulling you both over the side, its in your nature to do so.
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06-30-2010, 06:10 PM
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You're*
Also, this seems to have gotten just a tad offtopic.
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06-30-2010, 06:14 PM
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GLaDOS, in all seriousness - I am much of a misanthrope.
And when it comes to social needs, I lack most of those as well. I hardly spend time with other humans IRL, because I feel I get nothing out of it. I do not own a cell-phone, neither do I have a facebook, myspace, twitter account etc. I do not have MSN, Yahoo, ICQ etc either. I spend most of my time IRL completely alone - and I like it that way. I do not lack empathy, but I show exactly as much empathy for humans as for other life.
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06-30-2010, 06:24 PM
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It's not a lack of empathy, the empathy you show here is always obvious... But I understand that not everyone is deserving of it, for most people you just have no interest. I wouldn't say I have nobody IRL like here, but I certainly don't have many people, so I do understand.
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07-01-2010, 03:22 AM
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Hey, you and I are in the same boat, but just because you are lacking socially, doesnt mean your instinctive empathy has gone away. Otherwise you would not be here, you have a desire to connect and communicate with like-minded individuals, the internet is a means to an end, not a cause or a reason. You will choose the human over the bug I guarantee it.
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07-01-2010, 03:37 AM
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I just don't understand WHY, Eltu. Why can't you decide who you would save? What are the benefits of saving the bug? I am very curious, as I can name very few if any.
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07-01-2010, 06:41 AM
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Humans and bugs aren't that much different, as seen in a survival situation.
The difference: Humans are SENTIENT creatures. They have feelings and emotions. You kill an animal for food, take fruit off a tree, and no one cares. That's fine. But it doesn't apply to human beings.
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07-01-2010, 10:37 AM
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It's not about reason or logic here, it's not about benefits. It's about the very right to live. Who are we to decide who can live, and who can die? The human is alive. The bug is alive. If I had to save one of them, I would not look at them as "a human" and "a bug". I would see them as "two living beings". Therefore I would decide who to save, based on who would have the largest chance to survive. There
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07-01-2010, 11:37 AM
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Two living beings...really? So, a bacterium would be of the same importance to you as a human. I don't know what else to say, other than that saving the human is the right thing to do. It's just...hard to explain things that shouldn't need explaining. IT'S A BUG, for christ's sake. It's just going to dick around for a few more days and get eaten by a larger bug. Because that's what bugs do. Consider this: what if /you/ were in that situation? You'd be alright with dying.. for a bug. I must applaud you, though. This is, like, the epitome of sticking to one's guns.
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