Nuclear Warfare 24000 Years Ago?!?

[Sight Unseen]

No, I didn't misplace a decimal.

Flying Aircraft and Nuclear War and Other Strange Occurences of the Past

What do you make of this? I'm thinking time travel, because it's the only logical explanation. This is clearly beyond the level of tech the Harrappan civilization possessed. The implications of this are staggering. It's a stretch, but this could prove everything from time travel to M-Theory to Aliens.

[Isard]

Your source has pretty much nothing in the way of any real credibility... : /

[Sight Unseen]

Originally Posted by Aihwa

Your source has pretty much nothing in the way of any real credibility... : /

The website or the religious texts? I posted this because I thought it was interesting, and had some conversation value to it. I acknowledge that it's not up to scientific standards, hell, it may even be closer to tin-foil hat than anything.

[Woodsprite]

Oh trust me, I'm way ahead of you on OOPARTs. But then, my worldview dictates another possibility than just aliens or time travel... assuming of course, that humans from thousands of years ago weren't the cliché, idiot cavemen that everyone seems to think were hopelessly stupid...

[Davy Jones]

I only got time to read the first indian verse, but it looks to me like someone's just got good imagination, anyone could write a story like that.

[Woodsprite]

Believe it or not, I've heard of the whole "nuke war" thing before, where there were whole, isolated areas discovered by archeologists where metal and rock were shown, some in the same type of mass that could have formed structures previously, that showed such properties that could only be caused by an atomic weapon.

[Advent]

Nuclear Warfare 24000 years ago?
Ha. I have 3 questions then.

Is that the only entry of such a weapon?

If this story is true, how did US scientists come up with the same weapon 24000 years later?

Why was this civilization lost if it was so technologically advanced?

I rest my case.

[Woodsprite]

Originally Posted by Advent

Is that the only entry of such a weapon?

I really don't know about any story that may or may not have happened. All I know is, I've seen and read things (archeological things, btw, not just tales) that indicate something like it may be true.

Originally Posted by Advent

If this story is true, how did US scientists come up with the same weapon 24000 years later?

Atomic weaponry doesn't necessarily always come in bomb form.

Originally Posted by Advent

Why was this civilization lost if it was so technologically advanced?

...It's been contemplated many times about how nuclear warfare would eventually wipe us all out, and we would forget what advancements we've made over time, thus making it easier for modern man (us) to say, "That never happened. That's impossible."

Originally Posted by Advent

I rest my case.

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[Advent]

Hmm....

Still, we'd need proof before we could make any sort of confirmation.
Of course, I'd say radiation, but any half life left by it would have faded centuries ago.

And that '' scares me.

[Davy Jones]

Natural Phenomenas could explain those...

[Isard]

I don't think they were necessarily "stupid" but they for many early species of humanity, their brains were literally smaller, less processing power to work with. But they still had discovery and such, had to invent the wheel to invent an automobile.


And yes, that site is

[Human No More]

I agree with Aihwa. An ancient storybook is not evidence.

Advent, depends on the type. For nuclear weapons, there is material that will be detectable for thousands of years as a very minimum, in addition to some isotopes which are only created in specific fission reactions.

[Davy Jones]

Not to mention there are no remnants of any kind of advanced civilization, and no sign such a thing ever existed except for that... quite frankly ****ugly website

You'd think that if they were more advanced than us, we'd at least have found signs of them other than from an indian that ate the wrong plant.

[Sight Unseen]

Originally Posted by Red Orb

Not to mention there are no remnants of any kind of advanced civilization, and no sign such a thing ever existed except for that... quite frankly ****ugly website

You'd think that if they were more advanced than us, we'd at least have found signs of them other than from an indian that ate the wrong plant.

Hmm, yes. the site is fugly, however look at the last revision date, 1993.

The radiation certainly wouldn't have faded, because Plutonium and Uranium, the common elements used to make nuclear/atomic warheads, have half-lives measured in billions of years.

/me gets out a sheet of aluminum foil, crumples it into a pointy hat.

What if the radiation is indeed more recent than previously thought, and some government secretly tested a nuke there before there were satellites in place to monitor such occurences?

Maybe they chose that site because there was something there worth nuking?

No matter what, there is proof (not relating to that aforementioned site or infamously unreliable religious texts) that there is radiation in the soil that shouldn't be there near a city of a dead civilization.

[Human No More]

Originally Posted by Sight Unseen

Hmm, yes. the site is fugly, however look at the last revision date, 1993.

The radiation certainly wouldn't have faded, because Plutonium and Uranium, the common elements used to make nuclear/atomic warheads, have half-lives measured in billions of years.

Ah, no. Plutonium has a half-life of 80 million years for the most stable isotope. Either way, some isotopes do occur naturally. Presence of plutonium is not an indicator of human activity.
There ARE various isotopes that are only found as fission byproducts, some with a very long half life, but none have been found naturally.

What if the radiation is indeed more recent than previously thought, and some government secretly tested a nuke there before there were satellites in place to monitor such occurences?

Unless it was something like a Davy Crockett, seismographs would have picked it up at the very least.

No matter what, there is proof (not relating to that aforementioned site or infamously unreliable religious texts) that there is radiation in the soil that shouldn't be there near a city of a dead civilization.

There is radiation in ALL soil