Nuclear Warfare 24000 Years Ago?!?

[Woodsprite]

Originally Posted by Red Orb

Not to mention there are no remnants of any kind of advanced civilization, and no sign such a thing ever existed except for that... quite frankly ****ugly website

You'd think that if they were more advanced than us, we'd at least have found signs of them other than from an indian that ate the wrong plant.

Mmm...

There've been many, many discoveries. Google "OOPARTS"; you'll see what I mean (and don't just read a couple of articles that mention "Noah's Flood" and stop there, saying it's all bull; really look at what's been found concerning actual, real evidence, not necessarily things that have to do with the Bible or anything, because most of it isn't). I don't mean to sound paranoid, but much of this that's discovered is really just covered up so it won't go against any current theory; the scientific community is mostly all politics now, not really about discovery. Watch the film "Dark Matter": a great example of something I'm talking about (true story).

...But that's going into a whole other discussion. I don't know if the article above is true, and I don't care that much. If it's fake, whatever. But I'm just saying that the strange stories aren't all necessarily just fun and games, or just made up by people with no evidence...

[Davy Jones]

I have yet to hear about an OOPART that hasn't had a logical explanation yet.

[Human No More]

Originally Posted by Red Orb

I have yet to hear about an OOPART that hasn't had a logical explanation yet.

^^

Sometimes people need to accept that not everything is a big conspiracy. There ARE unusual and interesting things in the world, but that doesn't mean they are anyone's fault or that anyone has tried to hide them.
Humans have a deep longing for knowledge, and are often programmed to value any that many apparently do not know, but that often leads them to fabricate extremely dubious information for their own satisfaction - if you tell a lie too many times, you'll start believing it.

[Advent]

Originally Posted by Human No More

^^

if you tell a lie too many times, you'll start believing it.

That line reminds me of Inception.

[Sight Unseen]

Originally Posted by Human No More

Ah, no. Plutonium has a half-life of 80 million years for the most stable isotope. Either way, some isotopes do occur naturally. Presence of plutonium is not an indicator of human activity.
There ARE various isotopes that are only found as fission byproducts, some with a very long half life, but none have been found naturally.

I stand corrected. Pu-244 indeed has a half life of 80 million years. But Uranium has a half life if 4.5 billion years. Either way, any radioactive debris/particles deposited be a conventional nuclear warhead wouldn't have had time to decay significantly.

Originally Posted by Human No More

Unless it was something like a Davy Crockett, seismographs would have picked it up at the very least.

I actually got to see one of those at the Atomic Testing Museum a while ago. The Atomic Testing Museum and the NTSHF - Las Vegas, NV I don't see why that couldn't have been somewhat like what they used, 10-20 tons of TNT is still quite a punch.

Originally Posted by Human No More

There is radiation in ALL soil

Yes, yes there is. But the particular site where they unearthed the bodies had 10-15x the amount of beta and gamma emissions as the surrounding soil.

I can't help but think that this is starting to feel about as true as UFO's... oh wait...

Either way, how can you explain that the people were dug up in the middle of the street, and that the Indian text depicts a nuclear explosion so well?

[Human No More]

To me, 'a column of smoke and flame' is not an accurate description, particularly since mythology uses such elements for dramatic effect fairly often, possibly even overuses them, in addition to being, not to mention that like most of these texts, it's origin is dubious at best.
Hair and nails falling out can be a symptom of a fatal dose of radiation, but anyone actually close to a nuclear explosion wouldn't be at all recognisable afterwards because there would be nothing left.

[Davy Jones]

Oh yeah, everyone dies except the not-so-technologically-advanced Indian.
Makes sense.

[Advent]

Originally Posted by Red Orb

Oh yeah, everyone dies except the not-so-technologically-advanced Indian.
Makes sense.

Yes, it does make sense. On the internet

[Davy Jones]

Originally Posted by Advent

Yes, it does make sense. On the internet

Lold

[rasomaso]

I think the guy had a massive deja vu dream I have these like once in a half year, just only a few months ahead before they actually happen

I say that all the time, future already happened and will happen again.

[auroraglacialis]

Sounds quite phantastic

I dont believe a word of it though

Though I admit, I have jokingly mentioned, that the real reason the dinosaurs were wiped out and that caused the Iridium anomaly in that strata was that these stupid buggers could just not control their Iridium reactors well enough and blew their whole civilization to dust. Or is could be a Cosmic impact of a metorite containing Iridium of course as is the much more likely explanation.

I like to play with the thought though. On geologic timescales and in geologic strata a industrialized civilization of some hundred years are a mere blip. Some millimeters in the rock at best. Especially if the rock is 65 million years old. So what would be left if there really would have been a race of intelligent beeings 65 million years ago with an industrialized civilization that blew itself to bits? Buildings and technology would not last centuries, landscape changes maybe some milennia, radiation signatures quite a bit longer. Fossils would last only under special circumstances. A decrease in other species would be seen forever. Even oil reserves would recover (in the sense that residual sticky oil could convert to light oil) over such a massive timescale. Its an interesting thought how little evidence would be left.

Oh but about what happened in the recent past - there is quite amazing evidence, that there were a couple of meteor and/or comet impacts in that time. So humans would definitely have been around then and seen it. There is a theory that a comet hitting Earth >12000 years ago broke up in the athmosphere in several parts and the impacts of each of the pieces gave rise to many old mythologies about apocalypse and/or creation myths (like the peculiar sequence of creation in Genesis which is exactly what happens after an impact winter, or the description of the Christian apocalypse including bloody rain caused by dust and chemicals fromt he impact and of course fires falling from the sky and such)

[Isard]

Originally Posted by Woodsprite

Mmm...

There've been many, many discoveries. Google "OOPARTS"; you'll see what I mean (and don't just read a couple of articles that mention "Noah's Flood" and stop there, saying it's all bull; really look at what's been found concerning actual, real evidence, not necessarily things that have to do with the Bible or anything, because most of it isn't). I don't mean to sound paranoid, but much of this that's discovered is really just covered up so it won't go against any current theory; the scientific community is mostly all politics now, not really about discovery. Watch the film "Dark Matter": a great example of something I'm talking about (true story).

...But that's going into a whole other discussion. I don't know if the article above is true, and I don't care that much. If it's fake, whatever. But I'm just saying that the strange stories aren't all necessarily just fun and games, or just made up by people with no evidence...

[ZenitYerkes]

Conspiration theories + Speculations on the past + ? = PROFIT

And why is it important whether there was an advanced civilization in the past before or not? Or how OOPARTs got there?

The people who knew what those actually did there are long dead. We can just offer vague theories.

[X.,.Pandora.,.X]

(Monty Python)
Stop this, it's silly...