Living Na'vi Style . . . In the Wild!!!??

[Pa'li Makto]

I think that if we live in the wild our occupations will actually give us a sense of purpose instead of just draining our identity.

[Tsyal Makto]

So the indigenous people of the world are running from responsibility?

I think "running from responsibility" is a false argument. Sure, by living in the wild, one would not be involved in this world, culture, and economy, they'd be involved in another world, culture, and economy. It's a different lifestyle, with it's own sets of challenges, rewards, and responsibilities, just as legitimate as any other lifestyle.

I feel that as a human, and a citizen of the Earth at large, you should be free to live in whatever community you feel you belong to. Why limit yourself to the arbitrary borders of the certain faction you just happen to be born into? Life isn't a craps game, you can change your fate.

[Sothis]

Originally Posted by Tsyal Makto

So the indigenous people of the world are running from responsibility?

I think "running from responsibility" is a false argument. Sure, by living in the wild, one would not be involved in this world, culture, and economy, they'd be involved in another world, culture, and economy. It's a different lifestyle, with it's own sets of challenges, rewards, and responsibilities, just as legitimate as any other lifestyle.

No, I'm saying that I personally would feel like I was running from responsibility. I was born into this world, culture, economy, etc, and I feel a duty to it. Others might not feel the same way, and that's their business.

Also, I never implied that isolated indigenous peoples are living a lifestyle that is less legitimate than mine. That would've been quite insensitive of me.

Originally Posted by Tsyal Makto

I feel that as a human, and a citizen of the Earth at large, you should be free to live in whatever community you feel you belong to. Why limit yourself to the arbitrary borders of the certain faction you just happen to be born into? Life isn't a craps game, you can change your fate.

I agree. And I personally choose to be a member of "civilization," although I love the wilderness as deeply as ever.

[Human No More]

Originally Posted by Tsyal Makto

So the indigenous people of the world are running from responsibility?

I think "running from responsibility" is a false argument. Sure, by living in the wild, one would not be involved in this world, culture, and economy, they'd be involved in another world, culture, and economy. It's a different lifestyle, with it's own sets of challenges, rewards, and responsibilities, just as legitimate as any other lifestyle.

I feel that as a human, and a citizen of the Earth at large, you should be free to live in whatever community you feel you belong to. Why limit yourself to the arbitrary borders of the certain faction you just happen to be born into? Life isn't a craps game, you can change your fate.

It's not a conscious choice for them. I agree with you about wanting to make your choice about how you want to live, but for that reason, not everyone wants to abandon what they know, from either side.
I agree with Sothis - for me, it would feel like running away from everything - as it would to a degree for anyone, from anywhere, who completely abandons a life. Honestly though, the only people who give me any real meaning are here and I could never abandon that
I'm sure that a lot of people who might like the idea would seen realise that for all the perceived problems, life is a lot easier when you don't need to worry about where your next meal comes from other than how to get to the shops, or whether or not the winter will kill you, or if you get injured or sick then the fact that there isn't a hospital for several hundred miles. There's a reason that most ancient humans survived in large groups, because a smaller group is far more likely to fail when problems occurr. Also, the title of this thread suggests Na'vi style, which I can say is sadly impossible on Earth . The Na'vi have so much that humans never have, and surviving for them is not as difficult as it would be for humans in that situation. Actually 'living Na'vi style' as the OP suggest is sadly impossible on Earth, as much as I would love that.
If people want to try it though, then by all means they have the right to .

Originally Posted by Sothis

I agree. And I personally choose to be a member of "civilization," although I love the wilderness as deeply as ever.

Exactly.

[Pa'li Makto]

Society is what you make of it. Since a society is largely thought to be a group of people then if a group of us goes into the wild then we form our own responsibilities. No one should feel guilty about leaving the society that we have at the moment. As detrimental as our society is, it's normal to want something else.

[Raptor]

I would feel like I am running away from responsibility because I am already involved in what we know as "civilization." The indigenous people haven't, and it's not their fault. I don't think of them as irresponsible. However, I feel a personal obligation to help the rest of the world out rather than taking an excursion into the woods for the rest of my life. Unless society as a whole can change, I don't think it's right for only a few of us to live in the wild for our own benefit (I'm not talking about native people like the Aborigines).

EDIT: I don't think I used the word "indigenous" correctly. I was referring to people like the Native tribes on the Amazons and the Aborigines.

[Spock]

Originally Posted by AC130StandingBy

indigenous people

Be careful when using this word as we're all indigenous, just to different parts of the world.

[Pa'li Makto]

True, but others are free to follow our example if they wish.

[Pa'li Makto]

Exactly Spock. We all have the right to live on lands of our race's birthplace. Problem is European tribes don't seem to be able to..Look at Stonehenge for example..I don't hear of any Celts living there now..I'm sure the government blocks the area off when the tourists are gone.

[Human No More]

Stonehenge is actually handled fairly well, there is a balance between allowing access for the various reasons and protecting the site - but there are not that many true Celts left, unfortunately.

[Fighter-of-Wars]

I have spent many hundreds hours seriously thinking about going into the wild to live, either for a few seasons each year or year round.

Many of the things I have figured out is that it would be extremely lonely. I am not an outgoing person at all, but still it would be a lonesome adventure. And not an easy one at that. Sure hunting for food sounds fun. And around here deer and other wild game is very plentiful (Saw 3 rabbits, 2 turkeys, 2 squirrels, and 5 deer just today) and hunting would be easy. But you move somewhere where there isn't a person around and there is food to be found but the winters are long and cold. Or its very hot year round. To me no one around is no towns/communities for 75 miles in any direction of your base camp There are such places in Canada, South America, Africa, Australia, and Alaska. At least those are the places I have entertained that I would want to go.

But right now I'm taking the first step, I'm moving out of my folks house to a house with less comforts like no internet, no cable/satellite TV, no air conditioning, and a few hundred acres of grassland/woods behind. Once I get settled in I plan to start gathering wild game/vegetation for substance and see how much it really takes to keep a man going.

I originally planned on buying a plane ticket to Alaska and jumping in. I was so excited after seeing Avatar that I felt bulletproof to any danger that would represent. Now I did a little planning I am going to develop the skills needed and then find a more suitable location. I was thinking maybe something like Australia, Canada, and maybe Alaska.

But I am also hoping that I can find a happy medium. I want very badly to be in the wild 100% but I also love my family, my home and my hobbies. And leaving would throw all that to the wind and I would be alone. Which is not exactly a fun situation to be in. I have been to the revolutionists forum and follow their progress. But till they get something going at a location I'm on my own.

I have wondered about joining a tribe but that was quickly dismissed, I don't think I could follow their cultures and customs. I don't do that well.

This first choice has been fairly easy to make but the next one will be a very tough one. I don't know if I can make it or not. If things get to be so bad though around me that I can't stand being around the controlling world surrounding me, then the next stage will be simple and I will take the next step with a smile.

[Raptor]

Originally Posted by Fighter-of-Wars

I have spent many hundreds hours seriously thinking about going into the wild to live, either for a few seasons each year or year round.

Many of the things I have figured out is that it would be extremely lonely. I am not an outgoing person at all, but still it would be a lonesome adventure. And not an easy one at that. Sure hunting for food sounds fun. And around here deer and other wild game is very plentiful (Saw 3 rabbits, 2 turkeys, 2 squirrels, and 5 deer just today) and hunting would be easy. But you move somewhere where there isn't a person around and there is food to be found but the winters are long and cold. Or its very hot year round. To me no one around is no towns/communities for 75 miles in any direction of your base camp There are such places in Canada, South America, Africa, Australia, and Alaska. At least those are the places I have entertained that I would want to go.

But right now I'm taking the first step, I'm moving out of my folks house to a house with less comforts like no internet, no cable/satellite TV, no air conditioning, and a few hundred acres of grassland/woods behind. Once I get settled in I plan to start gathering wild game/vegetation for substance and see how much it really takes to keep a man going.

I originally planned on buying a plane ticket to Alaska and jumping in. I was so excited after seeing Avatar that I felt bulletproof to any danger that would represent. Now I did a little planning I am going to develop the skills needed and then find a more suitable location. I was thinking maybe something like Australia, Canada, and maybe Alaska.

But I am also hoping that I can find a happy medium. I want very badly to be in the wild 100% but I also love my family, my home and my hobbies. And leaving would throw all that to the wind and I would be alone. Which is not exactly a fun situation to be in. I have been to the revolutionists forum and follow their progress. But till they get something going at a location I'm on my own.

I have wondered about joining a tribe but that was quickly dismissed, I don't think I could follow their cultures and customs. I don't do that well.

This first choice has been fairly easy to make but the next one will be a very tough one. I don't know if I can make it or not. If things get to be so bad though around me that I can't stand being around the controlling world surrounding me, then the next stage will be simple and I will take the next step with a smile.

Have you read the book Into the Wild? It shows the perils of living alone in Alaska. You need to be seriously prepared for something like that. If you plan on living there in the wilderness, I suggest that you keep an emergency communication device with you, because you'll never know what can happen.

On the other hand, I love Alaska. It's an absolutely beautiful place.

[Fighter-of-Wars]

Originally Posted by AC130StandingBy

Have you read the book Into the Wild? It shows the perils of living alone in Alaska. You need to be seriously prepared for something like that. If you plan on living there in the wilderness, I suggest that you keep an emergency communication device with you, because you'll never know what can happen.

On the other hand, I love Alaska. It's an absolutely beautiful place.

I've seen the film. Read many stories about survival, not survival guides just stores.

Many Jack London books, Gary Paulson, Swiss Family Robinson, Robinson Crusoe, The Iceberg Hermit, and many more.

I quickly figured out after much thinking that Alaska is, like you mentioned, a dangerous place to live in the wild, that's why I'm not jumping up there now like I was originally planning and have considered other, more tame locations.

[Pa'li Makto]

Wow that sounds amazing, I wish you well with your new home.
To be honest I would never live in the wild unless there were other people with me. I prefer the idea of an eco village over just living in the wild. In other places like here in Australia, the game is not very plentiful, hence the Aboriginal people were nomadic and traveled everywhere for food. Here you might survive if you eat lizards, snakes and grubs but that's all you can find.

America or New Zealand sound like the best places to start something like this up.

[Nìmwey]

But we wouldn't of course be alone. Humans are not living in groups for nothing, we are social creatures who don't live long on our own.