Avatar - Most pirated film of 2010

[Boba Fett]

Originally Posted by Layzie

But for the people who "don't have the money" or just don't want to pay... it just kinda makes me mad. Not just with Avatar, but all illegal music and movie downloads. It just shows people's overall attitude is like, "Well I don't want to pay for it, so I'll just take it for free". People need to learn the meaning of the phrase "too bad". I mean, people can afford or buy computers but they can't spend a dollar on a song or a few dollars on seeing a movie in theatres?

If I had barely any money to feed myself, and I had bought a computer as the cheapest form of entertainment that I could find after saving money for a year or two, I'd be offended if someone came and told me that I must pay for a film that just made a few billion, and it makes me a bad person if I don't.

This used to be the case in my family a long time ago. The only films I had seen were those shown on TV ("seen" is a terrible overstatement given that our TV set was barely working), I never listened to any music or played any game, while all my classmates would tell me about terrific films they've seen, the games that they played on their console or how awesome the new Metallica album is. So naturally, when my parents bought a PC (as an investment to make money with it ), I was happy to illegally obtain games and music, and become a happy child. I actually "downloaded" them from the CDs of my friends (no money for Internet) - Lars Ulrich has to be very angry that I pirated Metallica long before Napster existed. And I honestly fail to see how can anyone see that as a bad thing.

Sure, my parents could buy music and films. I'd just eat less, skip any lessons I took additionally, and I'd skip learning how to use a computer. Only that thanks to all of this I became a more productive member of society, and now I also happen to have enough money to go and see Avatar ten times in cinema bringing someone with me each time and paying for their ticket. But maybe it was a bad thing after all - friends have personally told me that I'm one of the "morons" responsible for making "this joke of a film" the highest grossing film of all time. I'm pretty proud of it, actually.

P.S. How would the Na'vi pay if they wanted to show them a film?

[xcrunner08]

^Good post. Assuming all 16 million people downloading it didn't see it ONCE in theaters, thats like what another 100-200 million? Avatar made over 2 billion I dont think its hurting for that extra amount...

[txim_asawl]

Originally Posted by Boba Fett

P.S. How would the Na'vi pay if they wanted to show them a film?

Grace would've said "They didn't even have a word for 'money'..." - and why would the Na'vi want to watch a movie, when they can hook up with a Tree of Voices to experience memories via tsaheylu? They would merely laugh at our puny 3D tech.


Wiggling bare toes,

~*Txim Asawl*~

[Layzie]

Originally Posted by Boba Fett

If I had barely any money to feed myself, and I had bought a computer as the cheapest form of entertainment that I could find after saving money for a year or two, I'd be offended if someone came and told me that I must pay for a film that just made a few billion, and it makes me a bad person if I don't.

This used to be the case in my family a long time ago. The only films I had seen were those shown on TV ("seen" is a terrible overstatement given that our TV set was barely working), I never listened to any music or played any game, while all my classmates would tell me about terrific films they've seen, the games that they played on their console or how awesome the new Metallica album is. So naturally, when my parents bought a PC (as an investment to make money with it ), I was happy to illegally obtain games and music, and become a happy child. I actually "downloaded" them from the CDs of my friends (no money for Internet) - Lars Ulrich has to be very angry that I pirated Metallica long before Napster existed. And I honestly fail to see how can anyone see that as a bad thing.

Sure, my parents could buy music and films. I'd just eat less, skip any lessons I took additionally, and I'd skip learning how to use a computer. Only that thanks to all of this I became a more productive member of society, and now I also happen to have enough money to go and see Avatar ten times in cinema bringing someone with me each time and paying for their ticket. But maybe it was a bad thing after all - friends have personally told me that I'm one of the "morons" responsible for making "this joke of a film" the highest grossing film of all time. I'm pretty proud of it, actually.

P.S. How would the Na'vi pay if they wanted to show them a film?

Well I know the feeling. I used to also hear some people talk about movies and stuff they seen. Stuff I didn't even know existed because I had no channels to see commercials. Not to mention, for a long time I had to walk over a mile to get on a computer. I've lived the struggle for most of my life, but THAT kind of stuff never bothered me. Hearing that I have to pay for a movie even though I had little to begin with would be far from offensive to me. I even buy multipule copies of certain items, just to support them.

You said the thing about pirating Metallica and not seeing how people can see it as a bad thing. It's one thing when you pirate a movie, but music is a whole different story. Artists used to make better money before all the illegal downloading. The MOST popular artists right now are only selling like 100-400k of their albums. That's good for today's sales but 10+ years ago, that wasn't nearly as good as it seems today. But sometimes not even the popular artists sell. I am not a fan of Soulja Boy, but I think it's pretty pathetic that being as popular as he is, his album sold 13,000 copies in the first week. And being on a major label rather than independant, you don't see a lot of that money and the labels take a lot of the expenses out of your paycheck. So having to pay all that while barely selling anything, you are not making very much money at all. I'd be suprised if you had $10,000 after all that.

Originally Posted by xcrunner08

^Good post. Assuming all 16 million people downloading it didn't see it ONCE in theaters, thats like what another 100-200 million? Avatar made over 2 billion I dont think its hurting for that extra amount...

After reading that, I knew what I was going to say, but this post I have quoted below this one pretty much says what I was going to.

Originally Posted by Fosus

I think, if torrents did not exist Avatar would have broken 3 billion

That is what I was thinking. People are saying Avatar grossed 2 billion, when it was actually closer to 3. It was like 2.7 or 2.8. If it was not pirated at all, maybe we could have reach the 3 billion mark.

[Woodsprite]

That's why I still feel a teeny bit guilty, since I still don't own any copies.

[Hunter of the Glade]

Pirate thread calls for piracy national anthem?

[Fosus]

I think, if torrents did not exist Avatar would have broken 3 billion

[Unilyu]

I saw Avatar 4 times at cinemas (I would have seen it more except for factors preventing me) got it via torrent before the dvd release and have since purchased the theatrical release on DVD and Blu-Ray, the Collector's Edition DVD and Limited Edition Blu-ray so overall I don't feel that bad for pirating it.

[PaTRioT]

Originally Posted by Unilyu

I saw Avatar 4 times at cinemas (I would have seen it more except for factors preventing me) got it via torrent before the dvd release and have since purchased the theatrical release on DVD and Blu-Ray, the Collector's Edition DVD and Limited Edition Blu-ray so overall I don't feel that bad for pirating it.

good on ya man. as much as aquiring it before release day is probably classified as pirating, if you the said product when it is made available to you, I really don't see anything wrong with that at all.

[ZitaX]

I always go to the movies with my friends, i can't understand why anyone would rather see the movie by themselfs in front of their computer ...

Especially a movie like Avatar, i mean, jeese! It was a must-see in 3D! I don't think a lot of people choosed to watch it on their comps INSTEAD in the cinemas either. The comments on the avatar torrent were mostly "DONT SEE IT ON THE COMP! GO SEE IT IN 3D, ITS AMAAAASIIING" back in the days if i remember correctly

[Human No More]

Originally Posted by ZitaX

I always go to the movies with my friends, i can't understand why anyone would rather see the movie by themselfs in front of their computer ...

Especially a movie like Avatar, i mean, jeese! It was a must-see in 3D! I don't think a lot of people choosed to watch it on their comps INSTEAD in the cinemas either. The comments on the avatar torrent were mostly "DONT SEE IT ON THE COMP! GO SEE IT IN 3D, ITS AMAAAASIIING" back in the days if i remember correctly

I've seen Avatar by myself, even in the cinema, because sadly, everyone I know AFK does not See (and I would have run out of people after the first few times )

[ZitaX]

Originally Posted by Human No More

I've seen Avatar by myself, even in the cinema, because sadly, everyone I know AFK does not See (and I would have run out of people after the first few times )

I saw it by myself once as well. Really good experience, since i had the day off, i could go see the movie 10 in the morning with the whole place practically for myself

I understand if people downloaded the movie once they had seen it at the movies, what i dont understand is why people would download it INSTEAD of seeing it in 3D or Imax. Its absolutely not the way they should enjoy Avatar for the first time! ^^

[Human No More]

Originally Posted by ZitaX

I saw it by myself once as well. Really good experience, since i had the day off, i could go see the movie 10 in the morning with the whole place practically for myself

I understand if people downloaded the movie once they had seen it at the movies, what i dont understand is why people would download it INSTEAD of seeing it in 3D or Imax. Its absolutely not the way they should enjoy Avatar for the first time! ^^

Sadly, some people lost it from their cinemas early... and there was a long wait for the bluray release. I'd say that many people who downloaded it had already seen it at the cinema and wanted to keep watching before the bluray was out. Of course, some people did only see it first when they downloaded it, but with Avatar then they are more likely to subsequently see it in the cinema than with other films.

[EywaBlessMe]

One time I saw a film that was pirated and it was HORRIBLE!!! Somebody snuck (sneaked?) a camera into a theatre, so the pirated movie was at angle with a trapezoidal picture, and the sound was from a teeny little microphone giving a tinny sound like a cellphone!! All in all a terrible experience I wouldn't want to repeat

[James of terra]

You know that I am not surprised that it is number 1 pirate movie. Like everyone already said number 1 gross, attendance, blu-ray/dvd, and now what record is next.