Other Atxkxérelä Tséo (Maps of Pandora)

[pxipxuntil]

Both of you are right - Iknimaya is a rite and Hallelujah Mountains are place of this rite - I see it now as well in the book An Activist Survival Guide and I forgot this important thing - name of region 58 will be changed

so the Omatikaya and some nearby living clans can do Iknimaya in Hallelujah Mountains, and other clans in different regions (like 57 - 60)

[Woodsprite]

Iknimaya is a rite, not a place. That's my only bout with the map.

[Human No More]

Iknimaya is the Na'vi name for the place. Check the OST, 'Climbing up Iknimaya', or the Na'vi wordlists. Just because a lot of fanfic uses it wrongly doesn't make it an event.

[pxipxuntil]

Originally Posted by Human No More

Iknimaya is the Na'vi name for the place. Check the OST, 'Climbing up Iknimaya', or the Na'vi wordlists. Just because a lot of fanfic uses it wrongly doesn't make it an event.

all right - I looked around and AvatarWiki says about Iknimaya:

■Iknimaya is a treacherous but fundamental rite of passage in which a young Na'vi must select, capture, and successfully bond with one of the ikran who nest in the Hallelujah Mountains.
■Iknimaya is also the name given to the path by which the Na'vi ascend to the ikran rookery.

So for this reason I decide keep the name Íknimaya of the region 58. The place of the rite then should be Hallelujah Mountains for some clans (incl. Omatikaya) and for other clans different regions with floating mountains

[Woodsprite]

Hm. Didn't know it was actually the name of the place. The Survival Guide doesn't say anything about it being named "Inkimaya", neither by the Na'vi nor the humans. It's always referred to as the rite the Na'vi have, never as the place. (I don't read fanfics, btw.)

Only places I've ever seen it referring to the actual place was the soundtrack track, the above maps (as of a few days ago), and AvatarWiki (just now).

[pxipxuntil]

Originally Posted by Woodsprite

Hm. Didn't know it was actually the name of the place. The Survival Guide doesn't say anything about it being named "Inkimaya", neither by the Na'vi nor the humans. It's always referred to as the rite the Na'vi have, never as the place. (I don't read fanfics, btw.)

Only places I've ever seen it referring to the actual place was the soundtrack track, the above maps (as of a few days ago), and AvatarWiki (just now).

Doesnt matter, only Cameron and Frommer knows the truth I wish to read some fanfics, but my english is not very good for that... )

[Tsawke`Iheyu]

Whoa, would you look at that map it's awesome ! I wonder how would a realistic physycal scale of that would look like, a 3D model created from scratch after this map could take months, who knows what ideas this might start.

Anyway, very good work, appreciate this. It looks very pro.

P.S. Taking into account the scale of a Na'vi individual, the units in which you should measure geography here might change from what we used to know 'till now...

[pxipxuntil]

Originally Posted by Tsawke`Iheyu

Whoa, would you look at that map it's awesome ! I wonder how would a realistic physycal scale of that would look like, a 3D model created from scratch after this map could take months, who knows what ideas this might start.

Anyway, very good work, appreciate this. It looks very pro.

P.S. Taking into account the scale of a Na'vi individual, the units in which you should measure geography here might change from what we used to know 'till now...

Óe si iráyo ngáru nìtxan ))) Actually I wish this map start more ideas!! And about the scale - for the navi are the distances different than for humans - it is very interesant angle of view. It deserve some discussion...

[Tsawke`Iheyu]

Good, the distances are much bigger and the units must be in doubled meters or doubled inches and feet. ~3,5meters/ 10 feet of a Na'Vi standing tall. It means that every object must be doubled or maybe trippled. If it comes about the scale of a mountain or hill, recall the scene when the Valkyrie comes into Pandora's atmosphere and flies so close to the clouds which are "scraped" by those huge geographic forms. Same thing goes to the scene where Trudy takes the crew to the school and the vegetation around, the waterfalls are even bigger than Niagara ! It's a stunning scale, but deserves some study over.

[pxipxuntil]

Originally Posted by Tsawke`Iheyu

Good, the distances are much bigger and the units must be in doubled meters or doubled inches and feet. ~3,5meters/ 10 feet of a Na'Vi standing tall. It means that every object must be doubled or maybe trippled. If it comes about the scale of a mountain or hill, recall the scene when the Valkyrie comes into Pandora's atmosphere and flies so close to the clouds which are "scraped" by those huge geographic forms. Same thing goes to the scene where Trudy takes the crew to the school and the vegetation around, the waterfalls are even bigger than Niagara ! It's a stunning scale, but deserves some study over.

Average tall 3,5 meters for Na'Vi is too much, no? I did think it is 3 meters. But ok. Then if the average tall of humans is 1,75 meters and I use the cross-multiplication (= 600 x 175/300), I get result 350 kilometers. So 600 human kilometres are for Na'Vi just 350 kilometres. Other thing is we dont know nothing about their measures.

I write it in kilometers, because I am european. If somebody want the miles, I dont serve

[Tsawke`Iheyu]

Originally Posted by pxipxuntil

Average tall 3,5 meters for Na'Vi is too much, no? I did think it is 3 meters. But ok. Then if the average tall of humans is 1,75 meters and I use the cross-multiplication (= 600 x 175/300), I get result 350 kilometers. So 600 human kilometres are for Na'Vi just 350 kilometres. Other thing is we dont know nothing about their measures.

I write it in kilometers, because I am european. If somebody want the miles, I dont serve

My counting is metric too...

Well, knowing these distances and that Pandora is smaller than Earth (@ HNM) brings everything to a conflict between scales...







Are there places on Earth where Boeings are flying through so big geography ? It looks to me, but those mountains tend to have more than 6-7 kilometeres in height, on Earth, this is very rare, only a media of few hundred peaks reach that altitude and that happens in the big mountain-chains.

In the movie, when talking about the Hometree and the resource under, Selfridge mentions "200 clicks in any direction (from the Tree)", which means... ? Kilometers ?

[Human No More]

Srane, average height for a Na'vi is around 3 metres.
Pandora is slightly smaller than Earth, but not by much, although the scale of most things found on it are larger.

[pxipxuntil]

Yes, from the pictures it seems like on Pandora are much more mountain regions and bigger. But bigger for humans. For navi, they are not so much big. If we have for example Mount Everest with 8848 meters of altitude, for Navi this mountain will have just 5161 meters (8848 x 175/300). So I think Pandoras mountains are for humans very big (maybe impossible to cross afoot), but for Navi not so difficult to cross them.

Selfridge mentions 200 clicks? But what mean click here...

[Tsawke`Iheyu]

I don't know either, if they are kilometers, it would be absurd, because the closest unobtainium deposit is very close to the RDA headquarters (Hell's Gate), and that is not (I think) 200 clicks distance from the Home Tree.

Of course, which means the only thing/ things that make the Pandoran environments to look huge is the trees, floating mountains and large area spread cliffs and spaces (like in the 4th picture).

I don't know, how could we get a 3D of that map ? Would be very interesting thing to see... I'd be glad to take part of this

[Human No More]

Originally Posted by Tsawke`Iheyu

I don't know either, if they are kilometers, it would be absurd, because the closest unobtainium deposit is very close to the RDA headquarters (Hell's Gate), and that is not (I think) 200 clicks distance from the Home Tree.

Of course, which means the only thing/ things that make the Pandoran environments to look huge is the trees, floating mountains and large area spread cliffs and spaces (like in the 4th picture).

I don't know, how could we get a 3D of that map ? Would be very interesting thing to see... I'd be glad to take part of this

Yes, it does mean kilometres, and obviously excludes the mine next to Hell's Gate