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That's exactly the problem. They are not going to unified under the goverment. Copts and radical Muslims will never go together. Bedouin will do what they want in Sinai regardless what the goverment will say to them.
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Egypt could fall into pieces and destabilize, and it could solve itself. No need to make a big deal about it.
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 Excuse me, I'm not American. Plus the protesters had many demands: http://globalvoicesonline.org/2011/0...tahrir-square/ Quote:
Plus the attacks on the Coptic Churches were done by islamists, especially Salafists and plain clothes groups hired by the military who both the copts and average Egyptian can't stand. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/0..._n_805951.html http://www.copticsolidarity.org/en/n...her-extremists http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Middl...gers-activists As for Mubarak..If you think that there weren't attacks on copts back when he was in power then you mustn't of looked at the news over the last few years. The whole of Egypt have suffered under Mubarak.Except for the richest people and certain islamist groups..You should realise that the islamists don't reflect upon the whole of Egypt's muslim population..They are a minority who actually wanted Mubarak to stay in power. The revolution is still going. http://www.sa.org.au/index.php?optio...ace&Itemid=386 Sounds like there are police involved in the oppression against the Copts as well..Police who are under the military government of Egypt. The military that followed Mubarak and still have allegiance to him. http://www.latimes.com/news/nationwo...,5642011.story Quote:
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I know they have plenty of deamend the only problem is that each group want something else. The only common deamend was removing Mubarak from the goverment. 2. The copts protest against the burning of Churches... The churches were burned by radical Muslims not the goverment. After the burning they try to protest and then the goverment attack them. 3. It does not matter if you are American or not. I say really simple thing. You really don't get my point. I want democracy in Egypt. But I know from the begining that's the situation will get worse and not better. Last edited by Bey'damo; 10-11-2011 at 09:53 AM.
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No one here knows what will happen in Egypt. If you asked anyone if Egypt would overthrow Mubarak in their revolution people would think you are crazy. Basically anything could happen.
Take a read of all those links I posted..Those demands were written by the people who were the main ringleaders of the movement. I won't comment anymore on this page since I've said all I've wanted to.
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Well - before that stupid american settlers revolted, her majesty the queen of England was a guarantee for stability. And then - all those crazy bastards came together and there was war and they formed unions that broke apart again and there was general disorder. What a mess. And just a century later they did a full civil war.
I dont know how one is to expect a revolution to happen by some protesters going on the strees in springtime and expecting a democratic society with peace and prosperity for everyone by fall. This is going to take quite more time - maybe a bit less if outside help is given to organize a democracy. One problem of democracy of course is that the conflicts people have with each other have to be dealt with rather than brutally opressed. If you believe the Hobbesian view that humans need a strong and powerful government to be ruled because otherwise they would just start to club each other to death, then I guess you better be in favour of dictatorships and monarchies and give up on that dream of democracy. So I guess for Egypt it is time now to sort out the problems these groups have with each other. This certainly will not be comfortable but no one said that freedom is comfortable... Oh and if the muslims are the vast majority, then this is reality - it shows that a democracy has itself some problems namely the dictatorship of the majority. The way to deal with this in a democratic state is however not by creating a "strong and benevolent leadership", but by protecting minorities by the invokation of humanitarian laws and a constitution founded on ethical principles.
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The civil war broke out nearly 100 years after the Revolutionary War. And the most important thing : USA after the war was a country with tremendous economic potential becouse of it's resources. What Egypt have? A high percentage of poverty and desert. And we are talking about the Middle East... -_- It's unlikely that's radical Muslim goverment will give Christians Equal Rights(Unless they do exactly what the goverment want) BTW The American Revolutionary War was against the British king George III not queen. Last edited by Bey'damo; 10-11-2011 at 05:33 PM.
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