Medical science. We have neared the peak...

[Ashen Key]

Originally Posted by Aquaplant

Thanks for the clarification, I did suspect as much, but didn't really know that vanity was in such high regard these days.

What on earth is going on with this whole gender confusion thing anyways? One's gender doesn't equal identity, and what the hell is gender identity anyways? I can't form proper arguments if I'm not adequately informed of this stuff, provided it's a real genetic thing in the first place, not some conditioned behavioral issue.

...might I suggest you use google? And look up 'transgender'. And do try to be a bit more understanding.

[Aquaplant]

Originally Posted by Ashen Key

...might I suggest you use google? And look up 'transgender'.

"...transgender became an umbrella term used to represent a political alliance between all gender-variant people who do not conform to social norms for typical men and women, and who suffer political oppression as a result."

Originally Posted by Aquaplant

...provided it's a real genetic thing in the first place, not some conditioned behavioral issue.

Originally Posted by Ashen Key

And do try to be a bit more understanding.

There's absolutely nothing wrong with my understanding on that level, that's not to say that I understand most stuff on a factual level, but do not consider me to be ignorant. I just get annoyed when things don't make any sense, and that includes much of the human behaviour, especially mine, and I've somewhat learned to ignore the irrationalities of it all, at least to some extent.

[Ashen Key]

Originally Posted by Aquaplant

"...transgender became an umbrella term used to represent a political alliance between all gender-variant people who do not conform to social norms for typical men and women, and who suffer political oppression as a result."

Yes, and did you read about the whys, and the questions over gender identity? And how some people are born into a body that doesn't mesh with their gender identity?

Originally Posted by Aquaplant

There's absolutely nothing wrong with my understanding on that level, that's not to say that I understand most stuff on a factual level, but do not consider me to be ignorant. I just get annoyed when things don't make any sense, and that includes much of the human behaviour, especially mine, and I've somewhat learned to ignore the irrationalities of it all, at least to some extent.

...it makes perfect sense, actually. As does most of human behaviour. Otherwise we couldn't have anthropology or psychology, among other sciences.

[Dreaming Of Pandora]

What about voice? Can that be "transformed"? I think he/she would still sound like a he, right?

[Stanley_9875]

Originally Posted by Dreaming Of Pandora

What about voice? Can that be "transformed"? I think he/she would still sound like a he, right?

Dont know why but this reminded me of these commercials

[Devourment]

I think it's a little wack but hey if it's what they want its fine with me.

[Isard]

Originally Posted by Devourment

I think it's a little wack but hey if it's what they want its fine with me.

Exactly. It is strange. But somebody is much happier because of it.

[iron_jones]

So they took a pretty girl and turned her into a creepy lookin' guy. Big whoop.
Red Green could do better.

[Eltu]

I just spent 10 minutes moving over all debate posts into a new thread in the debate section. The next time I will simply remove these kind of offtopic posts - if you want a debate, post in the debate section.

Anyway, here is the new thread:
http://www.tree-of-souls.com/debate/...sexuality.html

Keep debating off this thread, please.

[Sothis]

Originally Posted by Eltu

I just spent 10 minutes moving over all debate posts into a new thread in the debate section. The next time I will simply remove these kind of offtopic posts - if you want a debate, post in the debate section.

Anyway, here is the new thread:
http://www.tree-of-souls.com/debate/...sexuality.html

Keep debating off this thread, please.

Thanks so much, Eltu! You're the best.

You're right, debate doesn't belong in this thread. At the same time, I'm grateful you took the time to move and preserve everything instead of just deleting them outright, given the amount of time I sunk into those posts. >.>

I realize you can't spend all your time playing "surgeon" on the forums, though, so we should all do our best to avoid having debates start in non-debate threads in the first place, or re-route them ourselves when a debate starts to form.

Aaaaand, back on topic. My favorite pic is the one in the upper-left corner, I think. That or the one 3 up from the bottom-left, with the smile. It's just so cute and happy.

[Eltu]

Did you not read what I just stated above?

It may sound harsh, but the line has to be drawn somewhere. And in this case, keep debating to the debate thread. I will delete any further posts of this kind posted in here.

[Aquaplant]

Originally Posted by Eltu

Did you not read what I just stated above?

It may sound harsh, but the line has to be drawn somewhere. And in this case, keep debating to the debate thread. I will delete any further posts of this kind posted in here.

Sorry about that, I was in the middle of writing my wall of text and didn't notice what you wrote there, so you can move my post in the appropriate place.

[Eltu]

Ah, ok. Sure thing.

[Woodsprite]

Well I apologize; I just come here via the "Recent Messages" tab down below, so I don't really pay too much attention to where the threads are anymore. I guess this just sort of morphed into a debate/discussion.

[Eltu]

It is understandable - but in case of future "morphs", please do make a new thread.