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A swift strike with overwhelming force to remove theocratic governments would be the best action, puppet governments could then be installed, these could then secularise the middle east with western values. After this it will be mere decades before a greater western sphere of influence is created.  It's all peace and love from then on. 
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03-21-2011, 06:13 AM
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I suppose we'll have to wait and hope. On a lighter note, Egypt has started it's first election after 20 years or so.
True, but I think I'll concentrate on peace and love for now.
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03-21-2011, 06:30 AM
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Live long and prosper Last edited by Spock; 03-21-2011 at 06:34 AM.
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03-21-2011, 07:00 AM
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03-22-2011, 12:21 AM
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Why should it be up to America, or anyone else, to deal with him?
Shouldn't it be the Libyans problem, to accept or reject him as they see? A previous president once said, upon leaving office, that the US should not go in search of monsters to slay, prolly bcuz there are too many. I say we should commit no troops, not one. If France is so all fired up to off him, (why?) then we should only offer support, and a few big missiles.
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03-22-2011, 01:57 AM
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03-21-2011, 06:45 AM
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Hehe Spock you flatterer.
 Then again where would we be without logic and tactical planning?
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03-21-2011, 07:14 AM
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03-21-2011, 08:48 AM
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Naww guys there's nothing wrong with love..It's just..You can't think properly until a few months in.
Ahem. To get back on topic. Here's some relatively up to date news: Libya: Gaddafi holds out against air strikes - live updates | World news | guardian.co.uk
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 Thanks for the article, I better head off to bed now.  Goodnight all.
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03-21-2011, 09:16 AM
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Night Spock!
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03-21-2011, 02:41 PM
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Spock, that imperialist/manifest destiny mindset is one of the main reasons the world is in such a **** hole right now. We all know how well it worked in Africa.
Now I'm all for supporting the spread of democracy, secularism, and self government, but the revolutions must be home-grown. Keeping the people of Libya safe from their despot is good, but it's important that they are the ones in charge of overthrowing and rebuilding their own country. Whether it is built to the same standards of the West shouldn't matter. It's their country, let them run it. It's always something I've found rather hypocritical about the West. They support self government, democracy, sovereignty, multiculturalism, etc., but it is at the same time trigger-happy to instill on the world it's own brand of these values. Tl;dr - Protect Libyans (or any revolutionaries in the Middle East, for that matter)? Yes. Do their work for them? No.
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The best scenario I could envisage would be an alien invasion as crazy as it sounds. This would unify humanity and at the same time disprove pesky 'you know what' beliefs therefore creating a lasting unity.
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