Solving Humanity's Problems

[Fosus]

The is a solution to humanity's problems:
It's the lifestyle that aboriginal people had and what Na'vi have!

This has it's issues ofc, but it's by far the most complete solution. It's just that not many in the modern society even take this seriously.

[stdout]

In my opinion, what we need is an incorruptible machine intelligence to rule over the entire world population. It would be tasked with maximising or minimising, as appropriate, the well-being of humans, the level of biodiversity, and so on, as well as distributing resources as needed.

It would also design and optimise its own 'subsystems of government'. It might try various forms of capitalism/communism/etc in different regions, analysing their effectiveness and ultimately rolling-out the most successful variant(s).

A group of philosophers would be elected by the people of Earth to decided upon weightings for the different factors to be optimised by the machine intelligence.

Perhaps that approach wouldn't be the best (it's certainly out of reach technologically for the moment), but I am convinced that what is needed is a carefully engineered system (or set of systems) with an, also engineered, planet-spanning government.

[BotanicalMedley]

There is one solution to destroying all ignorance, all greed, all indifference, all evil. It's so simple...adn yet not so simple.

It's Love.

[Ashen Key]

Originally Posted by Fosus

The is a solution to humanity's problems:
It's the lifestyle that aboriginal people had and what Na'vi have!

This has it's issues ofc, but it's by far the most complete solution. It's just that not many in the modern society even take this seriously.

As long as we don't have the rampant misogyny that the Aborigines tended to have...

But I do have to ask - do you think this is a PRACTICAL solution? And also, what are your thoughts on regularly setting the environment on fire? Both the Aborigines and some of the northern Native Americans did this regularly.

[Tsyal Makto]

Still got a better environmental track record than we do. At least they didn't turn the Gulf of Mexico into a mudpit or a portion of eastern Europe (and possibly soon Japan) into something out of Fallout 3. Plus that's not entirely unnatural, they're are even species that depend on fires to release their seeds.

But yeah, I'm with Fosus. Deep ecology and permaculture is what our world needs.

[SaphirJD]

Most people are always running around so busy and after what oh so important things.

There is one very easy solution... Just lean back and relax... If people know how senseless some behaviour and actions are, they would be much more able to let go of destructive behaviour.

[caveman]

Originally Posted by BotanicalMedley

There is one solution to destroying all ignorance, all greed, all indifference, all evil. It's so simple...adn yet not so simple.

It's Love.

My thoughts are that any effective change requires a fundamental shift in paradigms. A complete change in our core values, beliefs and perceptions. Einstein once said:

"The problems that exist in the world today cannot be solved by the level of thinking that created them"

In other words, the way we see the problem, is the problem. So we need a new foundation, a new approach. As to what this new perception looks like, I cannot say. Although, I do believe love can solve anything. In this sense, love is not just a commitment to the wellbeing on another, but also a new way of thinking, a new way of seeing and a new way of being.

[Ashen Key]

Originally Posted by Tsyal Makto

Still got a better environmental track record than we do. At least they didn't turn the Gulf of Mexico into a mudpit or a portion of eastern Europe (and possibly soon Japan) into something out of Fallout 3. Plus that's not entirely unnatural, they're are even species that depend on fires to release their seeds.

But yeah, I'm with Fosus. Deep ecology and permaculture is what our world needs.

Yes, I'm aware that the environment track-record is better. But the point still remains that historically there are HUGE problems in that kind of society, too.

But I do mean the point about practicality - is this really a practical solution? I don't think it is. There are too many humans nowdays, and by turning back on technology, you'd actually kill people. A lot of people. Up to and including women in childbirth.

So...yeah, I really don't think it's practical.

[Tsyal Makto]

Selective technology, and ways to conform that technology to the natural world.

Plus, there's already too many people on the planet as it is. We need to find ways to get people to stop having kids. My suggestion? Nationalized birth control and abortion funding, as well as tax incentives for small families.

The only obstacle really being the Vatican City Gangsters.

[Banefull]

Originally Posted by caveman

My thoughts are that any effective change requires a fundamental shift in paradigms. A complete change in our core values, beliefs and perceptions. Einstein once said:

"The problems that exist in the world today cannot be solved by the level of thinking that created them"

In other words, the way we see the problem, is the problem. So we need a new foundation, a new approach. As to what this new perception looks like, I cannot say. Although, I do believe love can solve anything. In this sense, love is not just a commitment to the wellbeing on another, but also a new way of thinking, a new way of seeing and a new way of being.

Agreed 100% .

No system no matter how perfect is going to save humanity unless humans themselves are willing to see things through.

Originally Posted by Tsyal Makto

Plus, there's already too many people on the planet as it is. We need to find ways to get people to stop having kids. My suggestion? Nationalized birth control and abortion funding, as well as tax incentives for small families.

Natural Family Planning would be a much better alternative in my humble opinion

[Ashen Key]

Originally Posted by Banefull

Natural Family Planning would be a much better alternative in my humble opinion

Natural Family Planning? What's that?

[Banefull]

Natural Family Planning - Institute for Reproductive Health

[Ashen Key]

Originally Posted by Banefull

Natural Family Planning - Institute for Reproductive Health

Ah, gotcha (although, ahahahahah, that does seem to require the woman being regular, which doesn't always happen). Nothing wrong with that, as long as there is a choice offered between that and other forms of contraception (the Pill is also taken to regulate periods/cut down on the sheer agony some women feel, etc and also protection is also required for STIs). And safe abortion should be there anyway, in case things go wrong (I don't just mean unplanned/accidental pregnancy, but also cases of pregnancy where the woman's own health and life are in risk, or the foetus has formed wrong, or is damaged, etc).

Choice, choice, CHOICE is needed so much, so women can make their own choices about their own bodies, their own sexuality and their own health.

[Banefull]

Originally Posted by Ashen Key

Ah, gotcha (although, ahahahahah, that does seem to require the woman being regular, which doesn't always happen). Nothing wrong with that, as long as there is a choice offered between that and other forms of contraception (the Pill is also taken to regulate periods/cut down on the sheer agony some women feel, etc and also protection is also required for STIs). And safe abortion should be there anyway, in case things go wrong (I don't just mean unplanned/accidental pregnancy, but also cases of pregnancy where the woman's own health and life are in risk, or the foetus has formed wrong, or is damaged, etc).

Choice, choice, CHOICE is needed so much, so women can make their own choices about their own bodies, their own sexuality and their own health.

You could sum up my view as being all the choice you want so long as it doesn't kill an unborn human being that is already alive with the exception of when the mother's life is directly threatened. For ex: An abortion just because the child has a high probrability of a defect, its just an inconvience, or unwanted is not a valid reason.

[Ashen Key]

Originally Posted by Banefull

You could sum up my view as being all the choice you want so long as it doesn't kill an unborn human being that is already alive with the exception of when the mother's life is directly threatened. For ex: An abortion just because the child has a high probrability of a defect, its just an inconvience, or unwanted is not a valid reason.

*nods* I entirely disagree with you, BUT I'll just leave it there, methinks. We have the right to our opinions, and all of that.