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Old 11-17-2011, 11:18 AM
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If it lived here before us, it has a right to live, no matter how annoying it is. And, no matter how useless it seems, every organism in the world is important to another.

If you eradicated all the mosquitoes, bats would largely go extinct, as would craneflies and dragonflies, which prey on them as well.
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Old 11-17-2011, 01:04 PM
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How about I just turn myself into cold-blooded lizard so mosquitoes will no longer bother me? Would that work?
Or you could just man up and learn to deal with it.
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Old 11-17-2011, 04:04 PM
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Or you could just man up and learn to deal with it.
Meh, the lizard up option sounds much better.

Besides, that reminds me of the horrible line in terminator salvation: "I'm not a machine, I'm a MAN!" That movie is so bad...
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Old 11-17-2011, 04:58 PM
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There's probably some fabricated counter-study by a hack lobbying group out there by now. Don't worry people, species loss is actually good for your health...
Something like this one about deforestation?
Deforestation causes cooling in Northern U.S., Canada, study finds

Re mosquitoes - I let spiders alive when they are living in my room. Occasionally I remove old webs though. They usually catch almost all mosquitoes in my bedroom. In the living room they dont manage to do so though.
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Old 11-17-2011, 06:23 PM
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Cool, I need to set up a spider lair and a dragonfly hive to make a biological countermeasures against mosquitoes in the summer.
Dragonflies don't live in hives
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Old 11-17-2011, 07:05 PM
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If you don't want to get bit by mosquitoes, your best option would probably be a mosquito
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"You think you're so clever and classless and free, but you're still ****ing peasants as far as I can see."

I wish I could take just one hour of what I experience out in nature, wrap it in a box, put a bow on it, and start handing out to people

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Old 11-17-2011, 07:07 PM
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Dragonflies don't live in hives
You see Aurora, this is what I mean about nature being inconvenient.
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Old 11-17-2011, 08:31 PM
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Cool, I need to set up a spider lair and a dragonfly hive to make a biological countermeasures against mosquitoes in the summer. Too bad that's about as unpractical as the prospect of getting rid of mosquitoes altogether.

And people wonder why I have issues with nature...

How about I just turn myself into cold-blooded lizard so mosquitoes will no longer bother me? Would that work?
Deal with it. Everything has as much of a right to live as you do, and they demand your respect.

If you want to keep mosquitoes away, remove any standing water from containers and fountains and such around your house, and build batboxes.

How to build a BCM bat house

These are artificial roosting sites for bats; by giving them places to sleep near your house during the day, they will come out at night to hunt mosquitoes, and this can drastically reduce their population if enough bats are attracted.

For example, I volunteer at a wetland wildlife preserve near my city, and I've only been bitten by a mosquito there once. It's a park full of standing water and puddles, but the bat population there is quite healthy, and the forested part of the park has dozens of batboxes attached to trees to help give them shelter. Sometimes if you stay at the observation deck after sunset, you can see them flying over the marshes by the dozens, snapping up insects as they go.
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Old 11-17-2011, 09:16 PM
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Deal with it. Everything has as much of a right to live as you do, and they demand your respect.
I don't care who has the right to do whatever, since mosquitoes are dime a dozen garbage that no matter how many you kill, they will never run out(kind of like us humans, wouldn't you agree?). I respect plenty of animals, just not the blood-sucking parasitic variety.

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If you want to keep mosquitoes away, remove any standing water from containers and fountains and such around your house...
It's better to lure them into breeding there first, and then pouring something toxic into said containers.

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and build batboxes.

How to build a BCM bat house

These are artificial roosting sites for bats; by giving them places to sleep near your house during the day, they will come out at night to hunt mosquitoes, and this can drastically reduce their population if enough bats are attracted.
Now that is actually something useful, though I'm not sure there are that many bats around here, but I'll have to give this one a try next summer.
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Old 11-17-2011, 09:32 PM
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Deal with it. Everything has as much of a right to live as you do, and they demand your respect.
A right is a human construct that a mosquito will not recognise. Why does the mosquito get to take advantage of my good will and offer nothing inr return?
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Old 11-17-2011, 09:39 PM
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Something like this one about deforestation?
Deforestation causes cooling in Northern U.S., Canada, study finds
Huh, that's a surprising article. I'm curious to know what the 20 institutions mentioned are. That's kind of what I'm thinking of but at least it does not say that the findings are an approval to begin logging at high latitudes.

I don't have a particular study to bring up right now, but what I was really thinking of was more along the lines of this:

[QUOTE=The Climate War by Eric Pooley]On Earth Day in April 1998, the same month that the Oregon Petition was released, the Western Fuels Association, one of the groups that had launched the Information Council on the Environment, formed a new front group called the Greening Earth Society to promote "positive environmental thinking" and reposition CO2 emissions not as a threat but as a boon to mankind. After all, CO2 was "a benign gas required for life on Earth," as Western Fuels executive Fred Palmer liked to say, and "an amazingly effective aerial fertilizer," so global warming would leave the planet healthier and happier by increasing crop yields and making trees, plants, and vegetables grow faster. "Grasses will grow where none grow now," one of the Society's videos predicted, "and great tracks of barren land will be reclaimed."
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Old 11-17-2011, 09:49 PM
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Something like this one about deforestation?
Deforestation causes cooling in Northern U.S., Canada, study finds
Huh, that's a surprising article. I'm curious to know what the 20 institutions mentioned are. That's kind of what I'm thinking of but at least it does not say that the findings are an approval to begin logging at high latitudes.

I don't have a specific study to bring up right now, but what I was really thinking of was more along the lines of this:

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On Earth Day in April 1998, the same month that the Oregon Petition was released, the Western Fuels Association, one of the groups that had launched the Information Council on the Environment, formed a new front group called the Greening Earth Society to promote "positive environmental thinking" and reposition CO2 emissions not as a threat but as a boon to mankind. After all, CO2 was "a benign gas required for life on Earth," as Western Fuels executive Fred Palmer liked to say, and "an amazingly effective aerial fertilizer," so global warming would leave the planet healthier and happier by increasing crop yields and making trees, plants, and vegetables grow faster. "Grasses will grow where none grow now," one of the Society's videos predicted, "and great tracks of barren land will be reclaimed."

"Every time you turn your car on and you burn fossil fuels and you put CO2 into the air," Palmer said, "you're doing the work of the Lord."
Denial groups and others propagating deliberate bull****. That's what makes my blood boil.
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Old 11-17-2011, 10:07 PM
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You see Aurora, this is what I mean about nature being inconvenient.
Huh?
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Old 11-17-2011, 11:14 PM
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A right is a human construct that a mosquito will not recognise. Why does the mosquito get to take advantage of my good will and offer nothing inr return?
Why doesn't it?

And it offers itself as an important part of the ecosystem
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It seems like everybody is moving forward. As if there is some final goal they can achieve and get to. I don't get it though. When I look around, it seems like I'm already there, and there is nothing left to do.

"You think you're so clever and classless and free, but you're still ****ing peasants as far as I can see."

I wish I could take just one hour of what I experience out in nature, wrap it in a box, put a bow on it, and start handing out to people

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Old 11-18-2011, 05:53 AM
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Huh?
Never mind, it only makes sense if you knew what goes inside my head.

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Why doesn't it?

And it offers itself as an important part of the ecosystem
Don't even try to imagine mosquitoes as an individual entity, because they are about as individual as ants or bees, and possess no concept of self in a sense that can be applied to mammals with higher brain functions.

Next thing I'm going to blame you is for killing the bacteria inside you that your immune system got rid of because you are still healthy. Why don't you lay down and die so bacteria have a right to exist?

F*ck nature and all the people who advocate for it.
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