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Old 12-29-2010, 04:42 AM
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So, I just saw Harry Potter. Some of you may think; "Well what's the hype?" I'll tell you.

It seems like Harry Potter has gotten into a bad reputation of some sort with some people around here. (and other I bet) I wonder why really. Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 1 is very much, as many know, the latest installment in the Harry Potter movie franchise. I think people gets too prejudiced against this movie just because of the (how I see it) gimmick to boycott Harry Potter.

Well I see many reasons why this movie should relieve you of whatever mistrust you have against it.

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We went to so Harry Potter. I just came back from it. And to those who oppose, I say Up Yours!

I didn't really felt as drawn to Tron as with HP, but hey, that's just me talking. And I'd be damned if regret it, absolutely not! Those who haven't seen it shouldn't misjudge it "just because it is HP". Rather silly IMO...

What I thought was so special, with this movie alongside with the others... when you like any random movie, you say you think it was good, or... maybe AMAZING, or EXCELLENT, or FANTASTIC, or just any word that may fit in to the category. I wouldn't describe this movie as just good, or even better for the fact, than just good! Or ANY of the above! And just because I say it may not be good, doesn't mean that I think it is bad in anyway. Completely the opposite! The movie is what I describe as; Just Precise. From my point of view, it is Just Precisely the way it should be handled out, no more, no less. The sheer contrast it has taken away from the other movies is beyond me. It is dark, grim, unsettling at times. Purely discomforting. Yet, they, in some way, insert these tiny short moments, of joy, love, friendship, which makes all the difference in the world! It entwine the movie!

As spill.com mentioned in their video review on youtube, it is much of an art film. Some may call the story's progression in the movie stiff or too slow... I thought it was beautiful! I bet there are movies out there doing the exact same thing, but for me, this is the first time I've seen a movie this raw. The friendship, the strong bond Ron, Hermione and Harry have, is shown in this movie like never before, in all it's power! I literally almost cried at some scenes. (Means a lot coming from me) *sigh* But... yet again, it is beyond me of really getting a solid grip of what I really feel.

It has been another very triggering experience for me. Somewhat the same effect Avatar had on me. It made think. While listening to selected orchestra pieces I felt fit my mood, together with Avatars score, I began to wonder. It is just a movie like this, like Avatar, that can trigger this mysterious weird feeling inside of me. I thought about my place, here in the universe. What it all meant to me, to everyone. And you'd have to really understand me, that this happens far to rarely. But the source that triggers it is much all the same, an experience (of some sort). And I realize now that I just, quite frankly, can't explain it with empty letters alone. My emotions won't come through enough with its help. I guess it is for me alone to keep with me.

And bear in mind, just because I chose Harry Potter over Tron, doesn't mean I have any negative to say about it. I don't. I have yet to see it. I just, simply... felt drawn at watching Harry Potter and his adventures more.

Just thought like sharing all of this. If you got anything to say, please, by all means, explain the big hype. Go see it if you doubt me, and it may prove you wrong. But, hey, I can't know for sure. You're not... me. :/

Final word to this, if you still ignorantly bash it without ever watching it...

Yep. Ain't got much more to say after that. If you feel hit though, by all means speak out your opinion. And don't underestimate what you have not seen.
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Old 12-29-2010, 04:43 AM
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I'm with you LA. I really liked the movie. It was a great change from the 'failures' in my opinion of the last 3 movies. I'm glad they spit the movie up also, otherwise more than half of the story would have been practically left out like the others. Where for like 40 minutes all you see is rushed parts of Harry in potions class, walking in halways, and people glancing at him. And the rest of the movie to follow the action. Where in this one it felt great, no rushing, and it kept a good pace for me and you got enough time to spend in the parts of the story.

All in all, it was my second favorite HP movie, I think the first one is the greatest and the second one comes in just behind HP7PT1 and the others are so far back there they arn't worth mentioning.-IMO
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I'm not 'boycotting', I just really can not be bothered to see it. I've seen the first few films and they made no sense in terms of comparison to the actual books and are full of plot holes. I really like the books, despite them being intended for a much younger age range (hey, I was the right age when the first book was published ). I know that films of books are generally bad (LOTR is the only real exception I an think of, and I could name numerous ones that are far worse done than Harry Potter), but I think splitting it into two parts was the right decision. I'll probably see it eventually, but not at the cinema.
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Did you know that Goblet of Fire (the one that I find most book-readers hate) was originally slated to be released into two parts, but then scrapped because they thought it'd never make enough money?
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I'm with you LA. I really liked the movie. It was a great change from the 'failures' in my opinion of the last 3 movies. I'm glad they spit the movie up also, otherwise more than half of the story would have been practically left out like the others. Where for like 40 minutes all you see is rushed parts of Harry in potions class, walking in halways, and people glancing at him. And the rest of the movie to follow the action. Where in this one it felt great, no rushing, and it kept a good pace for me and you got enough time to spend in the parts of the story.

All in all, it was my second favorite HP movie, I think the first one is the greatest and the second one comes in just behind HP7PT1 and the others are so far back there they arn't worth mentioning.-IMO
It was too long ago since I saw the other movies, so can't say much about what I think of them with certainty IMO, this is so far the only one of the movies where I've felt like they forgot telling us something. (And I haven't even read the books!) The moments with Harry, Ron and Hermione were all excellent, but in the shadow of it's excellence laid all the other characters that once also were so unique. They still are of course, but I guess they left that for the book alone. :/ I mean... we can see Harry kissing... Ron's sister (Name?)... and that's that of her... through the entire movie! JUST WTF?! They are in love... and you only see her once?! Yes yes, they were running from the Death eaters so they probably couldn't go back anyway. I'm just greedy for more content. Either because I loved the movie so much that i want MOAR, or that it was unsatisfying. :/ Can't tell.

I haven't really began constructing any solid 1st, 2nd or 3rd place for them all. I just love the genre as a whole Hehe, HP7PT1 lol

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I'm not 'boycotting', I just really can not be bothered to see it. I've seen the first few films and they made no sense in terms of comparison to the actual books and are full of plot holes. I really like the books, despite them being intended for a much younger age range (hey, I was the right age when the first book was published ). I know that films of books are generally bad (LOTR is the only real exception I an think of, and I could name numerous ones that are far worse done than Harry Potter), but I think splitting it into two parts was the right decision. I'll probably see it eventually, but not at the cinema.
Yes, of course, the casual "The Book was better" fan Don't worry, I've dealt with one of those my whole life, one of my best friends ^^ He basically say that all the HP films can suck his **** I will let him have his opinion, as I have mine. Can't say much about LOTR either (haven't read em), but that friend of mine read the books before the movies of course. And he like the movie version (He still think that it misses out on numerous plot incidents and scenes though.) But if you say the two part splitting was good, that coming from one whom has read the books; I take that as a good sign

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Did you know that Goblet of Fire (the one that I find most book-readers hate) was originally slated to be released into two parts, but then scrapped because they thought it'd never make enough money?
Argh! It's always hard for me to know if the Longer=More Story=Better should apply to every movie. I can't know for sure with H.P. I'm afraid. But I wouldn't say no to it, that's for sure! Damn, I wish they'd done it Pssh... not enough money...
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Yeah, the two part splitting definitely seems like the right idea, my main criticism of the previous movies was that too much detail (and in some cases plot) was cut for what was fairly obviously time restrictions. By having two movies to fit it into, they can focus on fitting more of it in.
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Hmm, perhaps I should watch the movies/read the books someday. I've read the first book and seen the first three movies, and I did like them.
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I found it an incredibly boring and - to be frank - quite patronising series to both read and watch. Maybe it's just the fact that I only ever saw the first few films and read the first book, but something about it just didn't click with me in any way.

Much the same with Lord of the Rings, it just didn't really effect me or transport me at all.

I guess it's just a matter of personal opinion though.
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You should read the books first, the plot will make more sense and a lot of the detail is lost in the films (including entire characters).
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Well, I'm a non-book reader for HP and I pretty-much got everything. Came back a few hours ago from my *movie day* watching HP7 and I'm serious; LA is right. And as far as story goes, it's not just the story that's incredibly intriguing, but the acting... good Lord, the acting is excellent, especially when compared to the other six films. Emma Watson stole the show, I think, in terms of dramatic pose.

As far as the transition from book-to-film goes, I may have not read the novels, but my sister has. She knows them quite well, especially considering how she read them all very recently this year. She says Deathly Hallows was spot-on with what Rowling wrote. Practically nothing is left out, and anything that might not make total sense in this film is surely to be revealed in part 2. If anything, the only real unexplained part in part 1 was the significance of Grindelwald, besides knowing that he stole the elder wand. That's about it. I'm sure you'll find it satisfying, HNM.
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Well, I'm a non-book reader for HP and I pretty-much got everything. Came back a few hours ago from my *movie day* watching HP7 and I'm serious; LA is right. And as far as story goes, it's not just the story that's incredibly intriguing, but the acting... good Lord, the acting is excellent, especially when compared to the other six films. Emma Watson stole the show, I think, in terms of dramatic pose.

As far as the transition from book-to-film goes, I may have not read the novels, but my sister has. She knows them quite well, especially considering how she read them all very recently this year. She says Deathly Hallows was spot-on with what Rowling wrote. Practically nothing is left out, and anything that might not make total sense in this film is surely to be revealed in part 2. If anything, the only real unexplained part in part 1 was the significance of Grindelwald, besides knowing that he stole the elder wand. That's about it. I'm sure you'll find it satisfying, HNM.
I so sincerely much agree Woodsprite I think the dancing scene between Harry and Hermione is almost my favorite one throughout the whole movie :') You could really feel their strong friendship. And honestly, I don't think any of the other movies has been focusing this much on Hermione alone! You always find yourself hearing what she has to say and plays a much bigger role in this. And I'll be honest; This is the first time that I've actually felt drawn to her. It is very much like a fanboy thing, but I've never felt it before. I just love how she was characterized all the time, showing emotions I have hard believing not many other actors would ever be able to truly express like Emma succeeds with.

SPOILERS!

It was really interesting seeing how the relic-bracelet tried to turn Ron against the others by showing... umm... what it showed. It was... bizarre, yet... very... I dunno, just plain evil. *sigh* I can with ease say that I'm somewhat obsessed with the HP universe atm NEED to watch the other movies in the near future to fill it up!

Edit: And who knows? Maybe they'll include a couple of deleted scenes when it releases for DVD/Bluray There from, more story plots/twist/character build ups.
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SPOILERS!

It was really interesting seeing how the relic-bracelet tried to turn Ron against the others by showing... umm... what it showed. It was... bizarre, yet... very... I dunno, just plain evil. *sigh* I can with ease say that I'm somewhat obsessed with the HP universe atm NEED to watch the other movies in the near future to fill it up!
When I first saw HP7 for the first time, I was just... mesmerized afterward. I couldn't talk to my sister about it too much because I had just seen something that I'd never seen before from the HP stories. It was sort of the way I felt after seeing Avatar, in that I'd seen something I never expected to see. Going into the theater the first time, I didn't know what to expect since I never read the novels, and tried as best I could to keep from seeing any viral clips or T.V. spots.

And that scene was what really sounded off the "THIS IS MATURE NOW" buzzer in my head. The scene was just different. It was almost "Devil's Advocate" like. It was filmed in such a way that every time I see it I just cringe and sneer at the screen. It was also the turning point in my mind for what sort of theme played out. It gets you ready, I think, for the *torture scene* in the end (where Watson's acting really takes off).

Today was my fifth time seeing it and I still can't get enough. And you're really the first person I've really really talked to about this in terms of how moving the film was. I NEED TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS NEXT. I have no clue about what the ending will be... well, I have one theory about Harry, but just a shot in the dark, really.

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I think what I liked most about the Harry Potter books, and i have't minded the movies, was that in a world where at the time, most childrens books tended to portray or present almost a sheltered view of the world, that Rowling and many of the writers whom preceded and inspired her, a darker lens, where life was not easy, hardship and heartache, loss, sorrow, grief, and even in the end tragic death. To me she inspires in her own way the same as Jakes line .. "something worth fighting for" that greater sense of purpose. Not to mention that at the time that her first book came out, that it challenged many religious and orthodox perspectives by introducing 'magic' through that dark lens. I remember here in North America, even the small town i lived at the time, whether or not it should be 'allowed' in the schools. In other words there were many when it first came out whom went on a 'witch hunt' to get it burned and banned.

As well by the nature of my interests, I had the bounty of running a children's program for our local library, (since the schools were unwilling to do it), and introduce a lot of kids to everything from 'magic potions' .. aka aromatherapy, 'spells' - affirmations and goal setting, and even meditation. It was the first of its kind in that small town and was a huge success!

So for that alone, and Rowlings ability to have challenged the system and establishment I have been an avid fan!
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When I first saw HP7 for the first time, I was just... mesmerized afterward.
Yes, I was too, now when I think of it, very much mesmerized after watching it. It is somewhat like our thought section of the brain is dead because of the overflow of emotions and information it is fiddling with in there.

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I couldn't talk to my sister about it too much because I had just seen something that I'd never seen before from the HP stories. It was sort of the way I felt after seeing Avatar, in that I'd seen something I never expected to see. Going into the theater the first time, I didn't know what to expect since I never read the novels, and tried as best I could to keep from seeing any viral clips or T.V. spots.

I couldn't really talk to anyone either. For me this has been a just too the same experience as Avatar, it's almost scary. Not as strong ofc. With Avatar, I'd never ever felt the same in my life. This, it hit me in the same way but not as drastic. I believe I must have seen some snippets from Youtube adds or TV commercials. And I did watch the spill.com review BEFORE I even saw it. Yet, it surprised me as hell!

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And that scene was what really sounded off the "THIS IS MATURE NOW" buzzer in my head. The scene was just different. It was almost "Devil's Advocate" like. It was filmed in such a way that every time I see it I just cringe and sneer at the screen. It was also the turning point in my mind for what sort of theme played out. It gets you ready, I think, for the *torture scene* in the end (where Watson's acting really takes off).
It definitely got my heart rate pumping. I was ,tbh , almost scared watching the scene. It was so drastically presented, in such a (again) bizarre and really REALLY unsettling way. I was watching it with wide open eyes, almost like I was paralyzed! I think that is what scares me, it really gets a grip on you and just do NOT let go!

That final scene, in my mind, i seriously WOW'ed. At first I was easing a little on my prediction on what might just happen when Hermione is left alone with Bellatrix (Bonham is such a ****en amazing actor!) I was just shocked, deeply so, at the scene. The whole movie shocked me in the matter of fact! And always in the same way, because of the much darker touch (simply put) it had.

But what did you think of the dancing scene? Would be nice with another's view to compare with

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Today was my fifth time seeing it and I still can't get enough. And you're really the first person I've really really talked to about this in terms of how moving the film was. I NEED TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS NEXT. I have no clue about what the ending will be... well, I have one theory about Harry, but just a shot in the dark, really.
SO FAR...

I've only seen it once I MUST take the opportunity now while the holiday lasts to see it at least one more time! Otherwise it will just probably slip away when schools kicks started >:/

One thing I really don't get with some film-reviews is how they comment on how easy it is to predict the movie. Well ****as, I am GLAD I'm not one of them that sits through a whole movie thinking of what will happen instead of living in the now and get a better experience actually getting surprised by the movie. It's one thing if it so happens that a thought just passes through your mind, but seriously sitting down brain storming the possibilities?

That is not how movies should be enjoyed IMO!
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