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Old 12-01-2011, 10:50 AM
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In the prehistoric fiction Quest for Fire from 1981, we meet the young Ika, a clever, independant and resourceful woman who teaches the films male neanderthal protagonist to make love in a more human fashion and to start a fire.

She reminds me somewhat of Neytiri




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quest_for_Fire_(film)

http://womeninwetlands.blogspot.com/...-equality.html

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Old 12-01-2011, 09:54 PM
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Why's she covered in silver paint?
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Old 12-02-2011, 05:15 AM
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She reminds me of an Oakland Raiders fan honestly

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Old 12-02-2011, 09:28 AM
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Why's she covered in silver paint?
Her bodypaint consists of a basic layer of mud and on top of that she has painted patterns of soot and different pigments obtained from colored minerals and from plants. What looks like silver paint ought to be the mud or clay, which probably includes light colored minerals and particles.

One can mention that those who designed the bodypaint and makeup of the movie was Michèle Burke and Sarah Monzani. They won an Oscar for best makeup.

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Old 12-02-2011, 09:35 AM
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Ika was played by Rae Dawn Chong




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Old 12-02-2011, 09:57 AM
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Ika reminds of Neytiri because of her strong independence and knowledgeability and her loyalty against the male protagonist. Also her natural appearance bear some resemblances.

A couple of more pictures








Ika teaches the male protagonist how to make a fire:


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Old 12-03-2011, 02:16 AM
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I like this. She does seem very strong, indeed. I'll have to see this movie now. Thank you for sharing!~
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Looks like she's wearing corpsepaint
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Honestly, when I think of a predecessor to Neytiri, I think of....


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Old 12-04-2011, 06:35 PM
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Honestly, when I think of a predecessor to Neytiri, I think of....


AMEN.

Actually most Jungle Princesses/Nature Heroins are "Neytiri Predecessor" since you know its a common trope/theme/character.


Its something I want to play with in a novel at some point. I don't know exactly how yet...I'll figure it out. Of course making the "male" counterpart for this part of the story competent might help.

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Old 12-06-2011, 12:38 AM
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I watched it, and honestly, other than in the most vague manner, they aren't that alike past the most general lines that can be drawn from both which are common to dozens to hundreds of characters. The films may be similar in a few respects, but having seen it myself, I think even some of the claimed ones are overstated. It's a good film, but very different.
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Old 12-06-2011, 12:57 PM
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I watched it, and honestly, other than in the most vague manner, they aren't that alike past the most general lines that can be drawn from both which are common to dozens to hundreds of characters. The films may be similar in a few respects, but having seen it myself, I think even some of the claimed ones are overstated. It's a good film, but very different.
Well, they are not copies of each other. But as you say, in a general manner, as strong, relatively independent tribal women who help the male protagonist with different things, they have their similarities. And both look splendid and rather exotic.
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Old 12-07-2011, 12:26 AM
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That's true enough in a vague way, I assume that is true for the one in the OP too. I guess it's a question of the level of similarity and when you can start saying they're similar characters
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Old 12-07-2011, 04:34 AM
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That's true enough in a vague way, I assume that is true for the one in the OP too.
Indeed. I understand the sentiment given the volumes of media Avatar is (unjustly) accused of ripping off from unpublished books to video games to poems to movies. That was why I didn't respond. I was originally going to but my reply went off on a tangent about how Ferngully is nothing like Avatar.
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