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Old 04-03-2012, 06:14 AM
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Default You know, the idea of giving up video games has begun to creep into my mind

This has been for a couple of reasons.

1. Other than Diablo 3, there is no currently announced game that I have much interest in going forward. I have difficulty seeing Halo 4 as anything other than separate and distinct from the rest of the Halo franchise and simply put, I gave up on Halo multiplayer back in the days of Halo 3. And any interest I have in Dead or Alive 5 stems not from it's game quality, but rather simply from T & A.

2. The Mass Effect ending has had a more widespread impact on me than most (I think). No, I haven't gone to complain or sign a petition or join a movement. What I have done is decided Bioware no longer deserves any more of my money. But it goes further than that. Ever since I found out what the ending of Mass Effect 3 was, I find I generally don't enjoy playing games IN GENERAL as much as I used to. I still play them, but I don't feel like I get as much out of them anymore. Perhaps this will pass, but I find the ending has had a negative effect on my interest in games in general.

3. On disc DLC. Remember in the ME3 discussion when Isard was talking about how Day 1 DLC begins development after the rest of the game? Well, it's gone a step further and there have apparently been instances (especially in Capcom games) where supposed DLC (didn't that stand for "DownLoadable Content"?) has been found on the disc itself. I have no intention of buying a single player video game that I am required to pay extra for on disc content. Given the current price and/or quality of video games, I can't support any game company that engages in this practice. Having spoken to a friend of mine who is an avid Xbox Live Arcade player and literally owns a copy of every XBLA game in existence, I have learned that Capcom is not the lone company doing this that I thought they were.

4. Rumors of measures to be taken in the next console cycle to eliminate the used games market. Allegedly, the PS4 and/or Xbox 720 (assumed names) are going to have DRM to prevent you from playing the games you have purchased on any other console than your own. Now, in my life, I have only ever sold one video game to a game retailer. That being Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2. But to lose that option, to lose the ability to rent or borrow games from friends, or to even play console games you own at a friends house because they don't reduces the value of the products being purchased. It also reduces the outlets I have to discover games. After Modern Warfare 2, I had no impetus to buy the third. Until someone lent me the game and I got to see the horde mode in Modern Warfare 3. If I hadn't had the opportunity to rent Sonic: Generations, I wouldn't have made the decision to buy a copy. The same goes for lets say Burnout: Revenge.


Last year with the increase of price of Marvel comics combined with the DC reboot, I stopped buying comic books altogether. I still read the old ones, but the closest I get to buying them are free previews on a phone app I have. I'm worried 2012 or 2013 will be the year I do the same with video games.



Sorry if this seemed like rambling, but I had to get it off of my chest. Thank you for reading.
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Old 04-03-2012, 09:18 AM
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Why completely give up on gaming? still plenty of older games that are worth playing. Giving up on the crap they push out for $60, I can agree on.
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Old 04-04-2012, 02:09 AM
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Play some more Skyrim. Play indie games. Wait for Gunpoint. Just because Bioware have sold out the last vestiges of their integrity doesn't mean all gaming is ruined forever.

Even just take a break if there's nothing interesting, but that's no reason to stop playing altogether - I am certainly never going to buy another Bioware game as long as I live (along with Sony and Ubisoft), but there are plenty of other great games and developers.
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Old 04-04-2012, 02:32 AM
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Yeah, you're looking at a really small percentage of what gaming is.

In fact, "gaming" as a modern term means tabletop gaming as well as gaming via machines, so you're talking about a tiny slice of what there is.

The consoles have more series of games and more genre variety to choose from than PC games do.

PC's don't represent as many genres but are unbeatable when it comes to the support and presentation of those genres, and is an indie gaming heaven, not to mention the mods and all the other goodies there is to be had here and nowhere else.

And tabletop gaming is something entirely different than the first two in practice, but still offers most of the same things that are good about them.

Within these three branches, there has to be something for anyone who is even remotely interested in games.

I'm mainly a console gamer (though I want to get a PC when I can afford it and school isn't molesting my wallet) because I like the number of stories there are to tell and I like the challenges that lie in arcade shoot em ups and 2D fighting games. I also like to collect games, and currently own approximately 700 of them.

So I mainly play more "classic" genres, and I do some tabletop gaming on the side. I'm relatively easy to please, but I like to expand my boundaries, and the only part I haven't tried yet is what is available for PCs.

The important part is to remain open to what there is and thinking about trying other genres or series. I had only just bought the first two ME games from the bargain bin at GameStop a few months ago, and just recently started the first one. It's great, and I found it because I tried something new.

I would suggest doing something similar. If you like games with a deep storyline, some of the entries in the Final Fantasy series, especially the remakes, are very good and contain very moving stories.
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Old 04-04-2012, 06:10 AM
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Play some more Skyrim. Play indie games. Wait for Gunpoint. Just because Bioware have sold out the last vestiges of their integrity doesn't mean all gaming is ruined forever.
No it doesn't, but that is far from the only reason. In fact, I would say the reasons given are in chronological order with #4 being the proverbial straw that broke the camels back. Each reason is separate and distinct from the others. The only reason Mass Effect 3 was even mentioned in reason #3 was because DLC had been part of the discourse in another thread on this forum.




As far as the multitude of games out there, I'd like to think that up until now I've covered all of my bases. Racing games, RPG's, shooters, fighting games, sports games, dungeon crawlers, casual games and so on and so forth.

I realize I could continue to play some or many of the old games I have. Heck, I have a friend who doesn't play anything past the days of Nintendo 64 and despite the system barely working, we still play that.

However, that only lasts as long as my older consoles hold out and continue to function. I've learned over the years that eventually, they break down.

Between my three friends and I who played Nintendo 64, we have 1 barely working system.

And regarding PC games, well, one of my favorites is Command and Conquer the first decade. But the older the game is that I try to play, the less frequently it properly functions. I'm an avid Diablo 2 player, but I haven't been able to play that game without the expansion in *YEARS*. No computer I or anyone I know will run it.


With comics, at least I can bag and board the ones that aren't prestige format. And the ones that are prestige are usually pretty sturdy. With the games I have, even if I stick with the old ones, the day is going to come when I simply can't play them.
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Old 04-04-2012, 02:33 PM
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Old 04-04-2012, 04:02 PM
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With the games I have, even if I stick with the old ones, the day is going to come when I simply can't play them.
I've never had my gameboy crap out on me, and the one time my N64 did, it was easy to fix. As far as the carts, they're easy to get into. Sure, I can't play them forever, but I'm going to keep them around as long as possible
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Old 04-05-2012, 01:08 AM
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As far as the multitude of games out there, I'd like to think that up until now I've covered all of my bases. Racing games, RPG's, shooters, fighting games, sports games, dungeon crawlers, casual games and so on and so forth.

I realize I could continue to play some or many of the old games I have. Heck, I have a friend who doesn't play anything past the days of Nintendo 64 and despite the system barely working, we still play that.

However, that only lasts as long as my older consoles hold out and continue to function. I've learned over the years that eventually, they break down.
Between my three friends and I who played Nintendo 64, we have 1 barely working system.
Emulation. You don't even need a good PC; the NES' processor is 2MHz with a 5MHz graphics chip - it's also completely above-board if you own the games in question.

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And regarding PC games, well, one of my favorites is Command and Conquer the first decade. But the older the game is that I try to play, the less frequently it properly functions. I'm an avid Diablo 2 player, but I haven't been able to play that game without the expansion in *YEARS*. No computer I or anyone I know will run it.
GOG.com - old games reworked to be compatible with modern OSes and without DRM.
Failing that, there are various guides for making older games work... I have a few win98-era games which work on 7 without a problem; some out of the box, others via compatibility mode or some trivial hack. Either way, the PC is the easiest platform around to keep older stuff working with a little effort and knowledge and without the vintage hardware itself.

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With the games I have, even if I stick with the old ones, the day is going to come when I simply can't play them.
That's a consequence of companies putting Digital Restrictions Management with games, particularly consoles - but if course, if you still own the game, you can always make a backup and use emulation to play it. My games that I consider 'lost' are almost entirely PS2 games, and PS2 emulation is still far more advanced than it was, just not working for all games yet.
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Old 04-13-2012, 09:22 PM
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I'm not going to give up gaming. I'm in college right now and when I move out of the house I'll buy myself a PS3 and my laptop is coming for me sometime soon.

I have a number of titles I look forward to play like Diablo 3, Starcraft2: Heart of the swarm and Medal of Honor Warfighter. The games I'm going to catch up on are Uncharted, Infamous, Halo (1&2 for PC) and the PC Medal of honors. And maybe Mass Effect and Skyrim. The PS3 is $250 today so I think it's a bargon and I think the game will keep me occupied if the PS4 come out soon.
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Old 04-13-2012, 10:47 PM
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The only "Games" that I play, I call Games, because that's where the programs are kept in the software stores. These are the upper end Flight simulations. I have a wicked fast desktop that is hooked to a full nav/com radio stack, and multi engine throttle, mixture, and prop quadrant, A control yoke, and rudder pedals with brakes. It's sole use is for the Flight Simulations.
I get a lot of both pleasure and instrument approach proficiency at very realistic airports that I have never flown to in actuality, but the terrain reality is incredible for three airports that I made many "virtual" flights to and from before I did it for real, and the terrain, runway and taxiway layouts, as well as
all of the radio frequencies, are exactly the same.
When you have the setup that I have, the FAA lets you LOG the instrument time as proficiency training, IF you are already licensed.
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Old 04-13-2012, 11:22 PM
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The only "Games" that I play, I call Games, because that's where the programs are kept in the software stores. These are the upper end Flight simulations. I have a wicked fast desktop that is hooked to a full nav/com radio stack, and multi engine throttle, mixture, and prop quadrant, A control yoke, and rudder pedals with brakes. It's sole use is for the Flight Simulations.
I get a lot of both pleasure and instrument approach proficiency at very realistic airports that I have never flown to in actuality, but the terrain reality is incredible for three airports that I made many "virtual" flights to and from before I did it for real, and the terrain, runway and taxiway layouts, as well as
all of the radio frequencies, are exactly the same.
When you have the setup that I have, the FAA lets you LOG the instrument time as proficiency training, IF you are already licensed.
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Old 04-13-2012, 11:31 PM
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You've completely changed his mind.
Is it possible for you to comment on something that I post without it being Sarcastic??
Actually it IS as you just said "COOL" to the story of how oeya lora muntatu si
oe met almost nineteen years ago.
So why do you find it necessary to be so disagreeable so often?
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Old 04-14-2012, 12:02 AM
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Is it possible for you to comment on something that I post without it being Sarcastic??
Actually it IS as you just said "COOL" to the story of how oeya lora muntatu si
oe met almost nineteen years ago.
So why do you find it necessary to be so disagreeable so often?
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Old 04-14-2012, 12:10 AM
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I doubt that I totally changed his mind, it wasn't what I was trying to do, I was only demonstrating how widely divergent the "Games " have gotten.
The only pure game that I liked, and still do IF you could even find an intact system anymore is what I believe was the first, which was "Pong".
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Old 04-14-2012, 01:38 AM
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There are plenty of ports and emulators around... Same for any game that classic.

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The only "Games" that I play, I call Games, because that's where the programs are kept in the software stores. These are the upper end Flight simulations. I have a wicked fast desktop that is hooked to a full nav/com radio stack, and multi engine throttle, mixture, and prop quadrant, A control yoke, and rudder pedals with brakes. It's sole use is for the Flight Simulations.
I get a lot of both pleasure and instrument approach proficiency at very realistic airports that I have never flown to in actuality, but the terrain reality is incredible for three airports that I made many "virtual" flights to and from before I did it for real, and the terrain, runway and taxiway layouts, as well as
all of the radio frequencies, are exactly the same.
When you have the setup that I have, the FAA lets you LOG the instrument time as proficiency training, IF you are already licensed.
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Sounds impressive - what software do you use?
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